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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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thats too much lift for any practical reasons

theres alot of things you sacrifice when going that tall and very little you gain.



oh and keep it civil in here so we can keep this thread good tech in it open
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by COSXJFAN
Yeah, when I saw that earlier, I was thinking that it was a touch on the high side. It doesn't look like 15" to me, but I have been wrong before, and likely will be again!! LOL!!
Well you know what we have to do is....







GET TOGETHER FOR A WHEELIN TRIP AND MEASURE! lol
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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Sounds like a plan, let me know!!
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 07:48 PM
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I heat what your sayin Endless and I know what you're talking about. I was just trying to keep this thread as tech as possible so it would stay open to opinions and technical assistance. That's all. No worries though like isaid I know of it too. Just the way some people prefer to post they're answers/opinions.


The rear link set-up is double triangulated right?

How do they mount?
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by broncofire75
Chill guys. Hes trying to help. Yeah I dont know the prior situation between yall but that was then, this is now.

SO how much do you know so that its ok to tell others they dont know anything? Im just saying...


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Its when the coil unseats and then the vehicle comes back down on it. Ive seen it. Thats when it gets pressure on it and is not in the correct posistion. Thats when it will be spit out.
exactly the point i was making. when the vehicle levels back out is when having a completely unseated coil is dangerous.

and i am i supposed to know that he has limiting straps but they werent on in that picture?
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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Post #10:

Originally Posted by JakeWI
nice pics.
does he not have limiting straps on the coiled rear end?
Originally Posted by djlarroc
He does, but (of course!) did not have them on that trail. His bumpstops are too short in the rear and the springs pop out. We will be remedying that this Sat hopefully.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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im sorry i didnt read that entire post. the op wanted to know about linked rear setups so that why i didnt read about a wheeling trip.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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SALLGOOD!!
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by EndlessMtnFab
JeepCo ... aren't you the same fool from Jeeps-Offroad that we had to put in your place a few times for being a braggart & know-it-all (who really didn't) ?


*edit* You must be ... I see you are in Wisconsin. How's your brother's body work holding up?


I distinctly remember typing this:







If a coil unseats .. there is no longer any tension on it. So how would it become a projectile?



Your knowledge (or lack thereof) doesn't impress a lot of people when you spout off stuff.




Joe
two things. yes, I'm the guy from jeeps-offroad who DELIBERATELY got myself banned, because people on J-O don't know much of anything. that guy couldn't even do an oil change, got a jeep compass (brand new) for his daughter (who will probably wreck it in a year or less), and decided to join a forum because he *thinks* he has something you can actually call a jeep. THAT is a wannabe.

I most definitely decided that I didn't want to be part of that club, and was not able to delete my account so I did the next most permanent thing. frankly, jeeps-offroad is a joke and almost everyone I know feels the same way.

next statement...an un-seated spring which comes completely off of the bumpstop (or center "retainer" inside the upper spring seat), that is not set at the proper angle to begin with, WILL manage to contact said bumpstop (center, whatever it may be made of) and could end up being compressed in such a way that it becomes a projectile.
have I seen it personally?
no.
have I heard enough about a coil setup being done wrong and it happening that I actually listen and would take proper preventative steps and do my research before half-arzing a coil setup together and thinking I'm cool because I don't know what limiting straps are?
yup, heard enough from enough people to know that I should do my research and set it up properly right off the bat.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by XJSETH
this all coming from a guy with sprung over rear axle? let me ask you this. have you seen a coil go shooting off into the sunset due to it "NOT BEING SEATED" ??? im curious to know. you know so much about it please share your experience. im sure this guy would walk all over your little mj all day, as well as my xj. like i said before the guys had limiting straps just didnt have them hooked up. his fault yes but read the entire thread before you rip didnt we go over this in another thread already? a wannabe is what you are.
I've never seen a coil go flying from not being seated. I've heard plenty about a coil go flying when re-seating when it had dropped completely off the upper bumpstop.

I'm not telling you my experience. I'm telling you that after having looked into it...I'll take the statements from those who HAVE experienced it over yours thank you very much.

as for the limiting straps, I did read this thread through from the beginning, and I saw that it was stated that they're in but not connected, and I ignored the fact that they are there because they may as well not have been there, seeing as the guy with the jeep wasn't smart enough to hook them up.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JeepCoMJ
two things. yes, I'm the guy from jeeps-offroad who DELIBERATELY got myself banned, because people on J-O don't know much of anything. that guy couldn't even do an oil change, got a jeep compass (brand new) for his daughter (who will probably wreck it in a year or less), and decided to join a forum because he *thinks* he has something you can actually call a jeep. THAT is a wannabe.

I most definitely decided that I didn't want to be part of that club, and was not able to delete my account so I did the next most permanent thing. frankly, jeeps-offroad is a joke and almost everyone I know feels the same way.

next statement...an un-seated spring which comes completely off of the bumpstop (or center "retainer" inside the upper spring seat), that is not set at the proper angle to begin with, WILL manage to contact said bumpstop (center, whatever it may be made of) and could end up being compressed in such a way that it becomes a projectile.
have I seen it personally?
no.
have I heard enough about a coil setup being done wrong and it happening that I actually listen and would take proper preventative steps and do my research before half-arzing a coil setup together and thinking I'm cool because I don't know what limiting straps are?
yup, heard enough from enough people to know that I should do my research and set it up properly right off the bat.
get a life dude seriously want a cookie?
bottom line is coils in the rear of an xj work if you do it the right way. limiting strap f&r are a given if you 4 link 3 link or long arm. im makin some while i type this i hope this helps to op sorry for all the BS.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by broncofire75
Chill guys. Hes trying to help. Yeah I dont know the prior situation between yall but that was then, this is now.

SO how much do you know so that its ok to tell others they dont know anything? Im just saying...


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Its when the coil unseats and then the vehicle comes back down on it. Ive seen it. Thats when it gets pressure on it and is not in the correct posistion. Thats when it will be spit out.
thanks. you got the point across better than I did.

prior situation is as posted above. the only reason I got "put in my place" is because I had a go at a moderator who was a complete douche and had more friends than enemies on the forum (and yes, my mouth is what did the damage more than his...apparently you don't point out when someone is wrong on certain subjects, and apparently you don't call out wannabe's either).

sorry for the drama.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by EndlessMtnFab
Mainly because I don't spout out information without giving a solid reason or backup. I try to teach folks, not just tell them why something "is" I never said he doesn't know anything .... I said he is posting a lot of bad information.


To simply criticize is one thing. To offer input (i.e constructive criticism) is another. I guess we'll all have to come back to him when we learn the usefullness of a limiting strap ?



I've been doing this for almost as long as he's been alive (if I'm remembering his age correctly). I think I'm qualified to show people a few things every now & again.


Obviously, I did not recall the tire size correctly. That thread (hackett gulch) said 15-16 inches & 36's. Definitely a large amount of lift for the tire size .....


Joe
we agree to disagree. I don't see that I've given out bad information at all. only thing bad I ever give out is blatant opinions of people. and you probably remember correctly on my age....22 to be exact. at the same time, I've learned from people who (without much information about you) I feel are much wiser than yourself and I DON'T give out information unless I've checked my knowledge.

when it comes to cherokees and comanches...parting out over 20 of them and building/helping build half as many sure doesn't hurt my knowledge of the vehicles...that said I DON'T pretend to know much about specifics on any other model or make of vehicle, and I sure don't know everything about every mod that could ever be done....I guarantee you don't either.

that said, I'm just flat out NOT WRONG about needing to be concerned about suspension safety...i.e. too much flex (and thus the necessity of outer limiting straps), about coil springs' capability of flying as a result, and about what a center limiting strap is...pretty much any issues in this thread with me are based off personal opinions of my ability to articulate my own opinions, and therefore they don't mean a darn thing.

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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ktmracer419
thats too much lift for any practical reasons

theres alot of things you sacrifice when going that tall and very little you gain.



oh and keep it civil in here so we can keep this thread good tech in it open
I'll hold back my tongue a bit but I'm not rescinding any statements on the builder of that rig's comprehensive ability to build a safely functioning setup.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 12:30 AM
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watch at about 40 secs!


the guys voice is just funny
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