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Old 10-09-2008, 12:41 PM
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nice flex kman. rustys all the way?
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Originally Posted by kmanxj5050
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Which may be very short if they are junk like the majority of his stuff.
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I like Rusty's too. And I have never had problems with ordering anything or customer service. The springs I have are still where they were when I got them. No sag at all and not a bad ride. All my stiffness comes from the monster in the back
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Originally Posted by okcjeeper
When you do let me know.. I am curious as to what they are..I am glad you posted the RE ones I have never been able to find that information.. ANy idea what the spring rate of RE's leaf packs are?
I spoke with Jeepin Jason and here's what he said:

According to RE the spring rates for both their 3.5" and 4.5" leaf spring packs is 190lbs/in.

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Originally Posted by kmanxj5050
yes sir. Dont mind it a bit

The reason i asked was because it's difficult to tell the actual ride quality of a spring/shock combo when you are on short arm. the suspension doesn't cycle the way its' supposed to and is harsher at that height on shorties.
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Originally Posted by nick_n_ii
I'd look more into Old Man Emu on every Coil they sell they have 3 different Rates for ride and load....
I have. I am running their 930 coil spring right now. That's all they offer for the XJ up front. You can run their 934 coil spring, which is for the ZJ i believe and has a higher spring rate of 180 but it's not GUARANTEED to give 3" of lift so i don't want to risk spending another $150 and not reach the height i am aiming for.

Another option would be to run their 4" tj springs, which have a lower spring rate but net about 3" on an xj. The problem with this would be the lesser spring rate would sag easier.
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Originally Posted by ktmracer419
my rustys 3" coils measure to 1" the standard duty
You only got 1" out of their coils? what aftermarket accessories did you run with them up front?
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they have been wheeled on for a few years
no real heavy accessories

just a front bumper in the past few months
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Originally Posted by ktmracer419
they have been wheeled on for a few years
no real heavy accessories

just a front bumper in the past few months
Thanks for the info. I think i'm gonna go with skyjacker 3' coils. I was outside measuring the actual lift using 17.5"/17" stock measurements, if those are correct. My front is 21" and rear is 21.5" loaded. It's 22.5" unloaded. So my springs are giving me 3.5" up front and 5.5" (unloaded) out back. I guess the OME coils only sagged 1/2", less than what i was thinking. I don't think the RC brackets will work with the 3.5" front so i have to upgrade the coils. Hopefully i can grab those springs today when i wake up.

I still have yet to figure out what skyjacker's spring rates are and no one lists them on their website (all others are listed ). Oh well, i had em on my TJ and they rode real nice with OME shocks so i'll take my own word for it that these will ride nice.
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Originally Posted by muddeprived
The reason i asked was because it's difficult to tell the actual ride quality of a spring/shock combo when you are on short arm. the suspension doesn't cycle the way its' supposed to and is harsher at that height on shorties.
mine rides great to me i actually just put my 31" all terrains on for winter and it feels like stock
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Ok here's what went down today:

I called skyjacker again, and got hung up on twice before getting someone to actually answer my relay call. I asked them what the spring rate was for their 3" cherokee coil springs and i get a "dunno" type of answer and some other bullshi$ that's not even related to my question so I gave up on them. I'm not gonna risk wasting my time with them if they can't assist me with knowledge on their products. I decided to call Rusty's and expected a hassle but it was the complete opposite. They answered on the first try and gave me all the information i could ask for. They swayed me from getting the 150 lb springs because they know they will sag with extra weight (smart) like they did with KTM. Plus they guaranteed i would not be disappointed with the ride quality of their HD springs. They said if i order today, it will ship out monday so....I ordered their HD 3" coil springs with 180 spring rate. I never thought i'd be ordering from them again but I think they made some improvements in CS so i'm giving them another chance.

We'll see how the transaction goes down and how the springs are in due time.
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I dunno why Rusty's get's so much grief..I have ordered a few things from em and never had an issue..Granted I may not order certain items which rely on their johnny joints or tre's but other then that I wouldn't hesitate..
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THANK YOU!!!!!! RUSTY'S IS AWESOME, THEY HAVE NEVER LET ME DOWN
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I ordered this morning and it shipped out with tracking numbers already. That was a bit fast.

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I got the coils today. It was three business days after order so i would say that's fast shipping.



They appear to be slightly thicker than the old man emu coils I had on and alot firmer.

With my old man emu springs and 2" spacers, i was at 3.5" up front. Now with the rusty's hd 3" springs and 1" spacer, i netted exactly 5". I'm right where i want to be and hoping maybe the springs will sag 1/2" or so.



looks pretty even but i got ALOT of tools in the back. Once that junk is out, it should be about 1/2" higher in the rear.
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