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Old Jul 20, 2013 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Trimmy
Pull it out with a magnet put the new lifter on the end of the magnet and slide it down the tray until you can get the dowl into it and pull it back up into its bore.
He's actually talking about installing new lifters. Interesting technique - never seen this done!
Old Jul 20, 2013 | 08:18 PM
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This guy did it without pulling the head, Same thing I said to do just used the dowl horizontal instead of vertical through each push rod passage

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/ho...-head-1218328/
Old Jul 20, 2013 | 08:25 PM
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Scroll down the page and look at and read how they installed the wooden dowls in the lifters to pull them off the cam. This should explaining what I am trying to, but I think everyone is to quick to say it wont work because they read on the internet it wont work or they pull the head to do the cam swap on their jeep. This is how I will do it when I swap a cam in mine which I hope is soon.

http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/d...camshaft_swap/
Old Jul 20, 2013 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by belvedere
He's actually talking about installing new lifters. Interesting technique - never seen this done!
Thanks for reading what I typed haha. Are you stationed at Ellsworth in SD?
Old Jul 20, 2013 | 08:28 PM
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This all seems dumb. I can have the head off a 4.0 in 30 min..... so I guess I don't understand why one should spend time to go to the hardware store to buy stuff to save from pulling a head off.....
Old Jul 20, 2013 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by odgreen89on35s
This all seems dumb. I can have the head off a 4.0 in 30 min..... so I guess I don't understand why one should spend time to go to the hardware store to buy stuff to save from pulling a head off.....
I'm not sure how you can pull the entire head in 30 minutes. I have never done it on a jeep but seems like there is more work there then 30 minutes would allow.

It's worth it to me not to pull the head because I don't like going to the machine shop to have the head resurfaced, then buying a new head gasket, head bolts, all the other gasket you pulled, and all the other stuff you need to replace when doing it right. That's around $125 added expense. My machine shop charges around $75 for the resurface. Enough dowl and PVC will cost $15

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Old Jul 20, 2013 | 08:57 PM
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Its a 4.0. It takes a head gasket, intake/exhaust gasket, and vc gasket. 39.99 set

My best time for a 4.0 head in the rig is 28 min 47 seconds. From hood open to head on the ground. All hand tools.

If the hg wasn't leaking no need to have it machined. But I always have em surface it because its a whopping $40 here.
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Intake/exhaust gasket, head gasket, no need to machine head.
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Originally Posted by Trimmy
Are you stationed at Ellsworth in SD?
Sorry, no, I'm about 300 miles away, in eastern SD.
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Why doesn't the OP do it without pulling the head? Document it in write-up form for all of us to see? Photos, special dowels, tools and a few good "Ah ****s". included. Stopwatch will also be needed. All this pondering and pontificating about something that obviously nobody has done on a 4.0 and probably never will is a waste of good electrons.
Old Jul 20, 2013 | 09:03 PM
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And count the time to the hardware store.

I can understand cheating on a cummins. Lot of ish to remove. But a 4.0? Not much to deal with.
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We just need someone to pony up and SHOW us how it's done. Simple.
Old Jul 20, 2013 | 09:07 PM
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I think so. I prefer to do it right when its my engine.
Old Jul 20, 2013 | 09:07 PM
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So you wouldn't resurface the head and I'm sure the extra couple dollars to have it checked for cracks isn't worth it either? I bet even if the head gasket wasn't leaking that its is warped, and you would reuse the head bolts? Seems like a lot short cuts
Old Jul 20, 2013 | 09:09 PM
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All you need is one time to the hardware store not hard to buy wooden dowls and PVC pipe it's cheap and cames in many feet long sticks and is way cheaper then the trip to your machine shop then to the auto parts store.



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