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Old 03-11-2010, 02:34 PM
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Im getting ready to install new inner seals on my D44 and was wondering will I have to mess with all the gear setup stuff If I just remove the carrier and not mess with the pinion gear. I know everythig has to go in the exact way it came out, but Ive seen right ups on installing liunch box lockers and they took out the carrier to install the locker and just popped it back in. Is this true?
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Yeah you'll be fine.

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The bearing caps are marked with arrows or letter. Matching these to markings on the diff cover mounting face will ensure proper reassembly. The idea here is to keep the bearing caps on same side and top/bottom the same. These are line bored and damage can result to bearings if reassembled incorrectly.

Retorque to proper specs.
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Thank you!!! Now Im not near as worried about doing this task.
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Wait a second....

Are you asking about the rear axle or a front axle?

Rears do not have an inner seal.
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Correct, the rear has the seal at the axle bearing
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Its the rear. Wow! Didnt know that. So why are there 2 in a front axle and just one in a rear?
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The normal config on a front D44 or D30 is 1 seal in the left tube, and 1 in the right tube. These cannot be replaced without pulling the carrier. If you've got 2 seals in each tube please post pics of the axle and the additional seals you found.
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So, in a rear dana44 theres only one seal per side and its near the wheel bearig on each side?
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Since my d44(rear) comes from a scout 2, I went to a scout website and they have a seal kit for my axle and it has both inner and outer seals with it.
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Got a link?
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Heres the link to the direct seal and bearig kit.
http://scoutparts.com/products/?view...oduct_id=14076
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The older scout 44s were lubed via greased bearings. Hence the inner and outer wheel bearing seals. Early Dana rears (like MB era) were doing the same thing but eventually went to gear lube for lubrication. For whatever reason, International kept using the inner seals quite a while longer.


Flexin .. you can eliminate the inner seal and just use the "splash lube" that every other semi floating axle on this planet seems to use. Even the last years of the Scout II stopped using that inner seal.



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Do I have to do anything special when eliminating the inner seal? What is splash lube? Never heard of it.
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Gear oil in the tube splashes onto the bearing.

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Scouts also installed the bearings weird on the axle. Every other D44 has the bearing cup in the axle and bearing and retainer pressed on the axle. Scouts are set up as follows:
Axle flange
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Don't gaul the bearing surface in the tube or you'll be screwed.
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If you do end up taking out your carrier, remember exactly what shims go where. When you take out the shims I suggest you pull one side out at a time and make sure you dont mix them up. The shims are the backlash adjusters. If you get them mixed up you will need a new set of gears pretty quickly.

x2 on the bearing caps.


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