Thanks for all your help guys!
So when I install all the new seals and bearings minus the inner seal, do I still need to pack the wheel bearing with grease or will the oil from the dif take care of that?

 

Always pack em with grease.

 

x2

 

The shims are under the carrier bearings. Nothing to concern himself with.

 

Frank ...

I see nothing like what you are describing in my IH owners manual for Scout II axles (looking at the pictures & description). I do see it for the Scout 80/800 models (pre 74).


Nor do the scrap Scout II axle shafts that I have look any different than my XJ D44 axle shafts. I'd be happy to snap a few pictures, but then someone will say " He could be lying .. it's not a Scout II shaft "


BTW .... this is an IH/Navistar factory book, not a Chilton book



Flexin ... my suggestion would be to see which way everything comes apart. If you pull the shaft and find the race inside the bore --- then just reassemble it how you found it. Same applies if the bearings are "reversed" as Frank is suggesting. Do you know what year this axle is from?

 

I'd never heard of it either till i saw it on an rig we had to tear apart on Golden Spike in Moab a few years ago. It belongs to Old_Man, our NAXJA Chapter Prez. We had a misrable time trying to put it back together after taking the axle apart because the pinion nut came loose and destroyed the ring gear. While at the Moab NAPA the guys that worked there were telling us about it. I don't recall what year the axle was, but I'll ask Tom (Da Prez), I'm sure he's got all the darn part numbers memorized.

 

For some reason, Jeeps are not found of IH parts. They seem to need anti rejection medication.


Joe

 

FOUND IT!!!!

Note the taper direction of the bearings in the pic below.



http://www.binderbooks.com/fleet%20l...ear%20Axle.pdf

 

So just to clarify:
This is not a standard IH scout installation method, but rather one used on some (tapered shaft) axles. Caution should be used when installing the bearings/retainers so that they are installed in the proper order because once they are on they cannot be removed and reused.

 

That's why the bearing is backwards (it's a Scout 80/800 axle). From what I recall a few of the early 800s (which superceded the 80 model) also used this setup. Then the bearing was "reversed" from there on out.



If the OP really has a Scout II axle ... then this won't apply.



Good work searching tho .... I'm keeping this foto as a reference.



*edit* Like 15 seconds too slow from Frank's 2nd post



Joe

 

No worries.
Since axles seem to wander from one rig to another ya never can be to cautious about what ya got. When in doubt...research.

FWIW,

http://www2.dana.com/pdf/XGI.pdf

 

Saved ! Yet another good reference point. I should check later to see how many gigs worth of service manuals I have. Dana's tech website is hit or miss with the info they have. Their diagrams are helpful when you receive an empty housing and aren't sure which baffles or slingers are used (mainl a Ford HP issue, more than anything).



However, I like my reference point better. It's the phone number to Spicer's Tech help & engineering dept. Mainly because it's faster.







Joe

 

Heres a pic of the shaft I pulled out of the 44.

 

This is a better view.
And from the BOM(bill of material) number that was stamped on the axle housing, and all the research Ive done, this axle is from a 1971 Scout II 800b. I could be wrong though...

 

That would be more like the "regular" setup then. The cup goes inside the bore (look at Frank's pictures).


You do not need the inner seal (if it is even inside the tube).


Have fun with that compression/wedding ring in front of the bearing.




Joe