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Budget Builds: What Junkyard Parts Will Fit Cherokee?

Old Apr 16, 2014 | 07:46 PM
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Old Apr 17, 2014 | 07:22 PM
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Quick what year and motor size of douge ram van can you take to brake lines off
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Old Apr 17, 2014 | 10:50 PM
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Quick what year and motor size of douge ram van can you take to brake lines off
Pretty sure it's a dakota you get the rear line off of... Read the very first post in this thread.
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Old Apr 18, 2014 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RedZeppelinXJ
Hey guys for the sake of everyone doing budget junkyard builds I was wondering what parts from other vehicles will fit an XJ with little or no modification that will help the performance/offroad capabilities of the XJ....feel free to post your mods and links to build threads if you have them.....this thread is to help new guys on a budget get started

***note that these are not all bolt in mods, but can be done by most who are mechanically inclined with the right tools

Here is the latest re-cap of what we have found:

Suspension & Lift:
1. ZJ V8 Upcountry Coils = 1-1.5" lift
2. F-150/Bronco Coils ('70s-ish) = 4-4.5" lift
3. S10 (P/U or Blazer) leaf packs (cut eyes off S10 main and bolt pack under XJ main) = 3-4" lift (may require use of degree shims)
4. Dakota Bastard Pack (do same as with S10 pack) = ~4" lift
5. JK shocks = slight mod to fit 2-4" lift (some dispute)
6. MJ Shackles = 1/2" lift
7. Camaro Spring Isolators = 1.5" lift
8. Full size Blazer Bastard Pack (do same as S10 pack) = 4-4.5" lift (may require use of shims) may be stiffer than S10 leafs
9. ZJ spring isolators = stronger, metal core, can be stacked
10. GM fullsize pickup shackles ('95-99) = 1.5" lift, better shackle angle
11. Thunderbird Front Coils ('83-97) = 3-4" lift (varies in lift and softness by year and trim package), will need top plate from strut too
12. Any 2.5" wide leaf spring can be used between to make a bastard pack (they may differ in stiffness and lift)
13. S10 Shocks (Rear only) = good for the lift you will get when you do a bastard pack
14. TJ Lift Coils (front only) = provide 1" less lift on an XJ than on a TJ

Brakes:
1. WJ brake booster
2. WJ Master Cylinder
3. YJ Brake Lines = 3-4" longer
4. Dodge Ram Van Brake Lines = 10-12" longer (for big lifts)
5. WJ Rotors/Calipers = bigger brakes and more stopping power (will fit 15" rims)
6. ZJ brake booster, master cylinder, proportioning valve = may need for disc conversion
7. XJ '95+ brake booster and master cylinder = dual diaphragm
8. Dakota Rear Softlines ('95-00) = 6" longer
9. GM C/K1500 Front Softlines ('90-95) = 6" longer
10. KJ disc brake set-ups can be used for a conversion on your XJ axle

Axles:
1. Ford 8.8 inch ('97+) = need spring & shock mounts (3.55, 3.73, or 4.10, maybe LSD, Disc Brakes)
2. XJ I-4 & some V6 = may have 3.73, 4.10, or 4.56 gears may have vacuum discos
3. XJ C8.25 ('97+) = bolt in and upgrades to 29 spline (strength comparable to D44)
4. XJ D44 = found in some but not all '87-'89 XJ's with Towing Package
5. Lincoln Lockers = welded spider gears, operates like a spool, must be a GOOD welder
6. MJ D44 = need new spring perches and shock mounts
7. XJ D30 = ('95-'99) non-disconnect, larger u-joints, high pinion, bolt in
8. Homebrew posi-locks for '84-90 vacuum disconnect D30s, eliminates vacuum actuation (use search function)

Front End & Steering:
1. ZJ V8 Tierods = beefier & bolt in
2. WJ Knuckles/Tierods/Draglinks = beefier and crossover steering
3. Durango Steering Box = beefier
4. 350 or 351 Power Steering Pump = helps with oversize tires (requires welding)
5. WJ LCA's = more tire clearance (some grinding required)
6. ZJ pitman arm = 1 inch drop over stock
7. WJ rear LCA's = replace XJ front LCA's, 2" longer to accommodate a lift, some grinding required
8. WJ power steering pump (fits '96+, plug return hole, and use XJ pulley)
9. V8 ZJ front sway-bar
10. JK rear UCA = use as XJ LCA, its about 1-2" longer

Engine/Transmission/T-case:
1. Newer XJ intakes (may require some modification)
2. Mustang 5.0 Injectors = near bolt in (have 4 holes instead of 1, more fuel, better spray)
3. ZJ V8 alternator = more power to run accessories (some grinding required) 136A (for 1991 and newer XJ's).
4. Ford Electric Fan ('90-95 3.8L Taurus, '87-93 5.0L Mustang) = replaces mechanical fan, more cooling (8C607)
5. 2.5L Dakota Alternator = bolt in, upgrades to 117A
6. Dodge Neon Injectors = better throttle response
7. '94+ V6 Dakota AX-15 = bolt in (but must use XJ bellhousing)
8. ZJ and WJ stock tranny coolers with stacked plates (even an upgrade for us with the stock fin style)
9. 5spd crossmembers give 3/4 inch t-case drop on autos with no loss in ground clearance
10. Hoodvents (i.e. Lebaron, Laser, Turbo Thunderbird etc.) = help keep ur 4.0 cool at low speeds
11. You can convert the closed system to open without replacing your radiator by using the fill cap from a 4.7 durango or dakota, cutting it into your upper hose, and replace your bottle with an MJ overflow tank or any that fit. Then cap off or eliminate the T'ed lines in the heater core.
12. Homebrew Slip Yoke Eliminator (use search function)


Body/Interior/Armor:
1. 97+ mirrors are direct bolt in to older XJ's and allow you to fold them in on tight trails.
2. MJ/2 Door XJ Bucket seats = tilt forward, bolt in
3. ZJ gas tank skid = can be modified to fit 97+
4. GM power antennas replace your broken XJ's with little modification
5. XJ '97+ doors onto older cherokees = one piece windows and better mirrors
6. XJ overhead console = most commonly found in '00-01 or higher trim level, provides space for switches etc.
7. '97+ center console = can be made to fit '96 and older, gives you cupholders!
8.'96-00 Ford Explorer hatch shocks = lift your hatch about 3" lower but are beef (ever see one that doesn't work?) need modification for '97+
9. OEM skid plates (Front, Tranny, T-case, gas tank, found on "up-country" package XJ's)
10. OEM swing-out tire carriers, get the bumper with it, found mainly on '84-'90 XJ's

*feel free to ask questions about any of these mods

**Also Blazin Den has made a list of links to build threads for us! Recap with Links!

***Here is the Link to the thread on Jeepforum.com where most of this info came from Budget Builds: What Junkyard parts will fit an XJ?

Does anyone know what year dodge ram brake lines to use for 87 and 97 jeep xj cherokee's?
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 07:02 PM
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here's my set-up built with help of this thread. zj coils, wj lca's, bastard pack rear, 11.5" f-150 monroe's front, 10.75" f-150 monroe's rear...on 32.5" swamper SSR radials

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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 08:11 PM
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Last weekend I used a 88 dodge w150 4x4 rear brake line its 26in long shouldn't need anymore than that.
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Old May 1, 2014 | 10:17 PM
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someone explain what a "bastard pack" is????


and which jeep is a ZJ


I have an AWESOME pick n pull right here local to me at work and im going tomorrow ti have a key made (locksmith next door)
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Old May 1, 2014 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by qdw2008
someone explain what a "bastard pack" is????

and which jeep is a ZJ

I have an AWESOME pick n pull right here local to me at work and im going tomorrow ti have a key made (locksmith next door)
Bastard pack is when you use leaf springs from another vehicle under your XJ/MJ.

ZJ is the first generation Grand Cherokee. '93-98, I think.
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Old May 1, 2014 | 10:45 PM
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is it really that simple? I was thinking a bastard pack involved splitting the packs and using certain leaves from each pack




taking two packs and making one..
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Old May 1, 2014 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by qdw2008
is it really that simple? I was thinking a bastard pack involved splitting the packs and using certain leaves from each pack

taking two packs and making one..
Figuring how many springs to use from each pack determines ride height and, sometimes, comfort.
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Old May 2, 2014 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by qdw2008
is it really that simple? I was thinking a bastard pack involved splitting the packs and using certain leaves from each pack

taking two packs and making one..
yes and no - the main leaf needs to come from your truck, or another XJ (i advise replacing the bushings also). The other leafs can be a combination of the XJ pack leafs, or the leafs from any vehicle that uses 2.5" wide springs, cut to length as required. Chevy S10 and Dodge Dakota leafs work perfect for this.

My packs are (in order from longest to shortest)
XJ Main, Dakota Main (w/ eyes cut off), Dakota 3rd, XJ 4th.

This gave me roughly 3" of lift. But it's really trial and error since it depends entirely on what packs you use, what leaf combo you use, and the condition of both packs.
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Old May 2, 2014 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dukie564
yes and no - the main leaf needs to come from your truck, or another XJ (i advise replacing the bushings also). The other leafs can be a combination of the XJ pack leafs, or the leafs from any vehicle that uses 2.5" wide springs, cut to length as required. Chevy S10 and Dodge Dakota leafs work perfect for this. My packs are (in order from longest to shortest) XJ Main, Dakota Main (w/ eyes cut off), Dakota 3rd, XJ 4th. This gave me roughly 3" of lift. But it's really trial and error since it depends entirely on what packs you use, what leaf combo you use, and the condition of both packs.
.. This would (in theory) work with any leaf spring vehicle, right? And it would work no matter if the leaf springs were in the front or the rear, right? I have a truck with leaf springs front and rear.. I know it would be all trial and error and everything, but as long as the concept would work.. (I don't see why it wouldn't work, but I'd rather ask a stupid question than f something up. (I know barely anything about suspension, hence why I'm trying to cover my bases.)
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Old May 3, 2014 | 05:09 PM
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Old May 5, 2014 | 01:08 PM
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Is that where all the two-door seats I'm looking for went?
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Old May 5, 2014 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck1225
.. This would (in theory) work with any leaf spring vehicle, right? And it would work no matter if the leaf springs were in the front or the rear, right? I have a truck with leaf springs front and rear.. I know it would be all trial and error and everything, but as long as the concept would work.. (I don't see why it wouldn't work, but I'd rather ask a stupid question than f something up. (I know barely anything about suspension, hence why I'm trying to cover my bases.)
Correct. Everything is aligned via the centering pin, so the length is not critical, only width. Although, it would be good to use a pack where the leafs had the centering pin in about the same location.
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