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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 12:59 PM
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PCM has nothing to do with turn signals.

Disassemble every electrical connector you can find. If it is a large enough mating surface, sand or use another abrasive material until shiny. This will include all body grounds and main power connections and even relay and fuse pins. Then clean off all remaining residues and bits with electrical (or 'electronic') contact cleaner. When dry, reassemble with a conductive grease like Gardner Bender OX-GARD or Sanchem NO-OX-ID Special A. These products are used in the power, radio, and telecom industries to prevent corrosion on critical and mixed-metal joints (such as aluminum to copper splices) and promote a good connection. Do the same for electrical connectors. Obviously you can't sand them all, I've had very good luck with a 1" brass wire brush. Also use the electrical grease on the connector pins. Dielectric grease should be applied around the edges of plastic connectors like caulking to keep water out. Don't use it on the actual pins.

I've used the above to restore function to many things including returning corroded connectors back from the dead. I'm glad your alternator and battery weren't replaced for naught but you really need to ensure your wires and connections are SOLID before throwing random parts at the problem.
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jamurrin
Suggest using a real voltmeter...not just the dashboard indicator. On my JEEP the dashboard indicator turns off after 20-30 seconds of the car not running...I think most auto parts stores will let you borrow a meter to make measurements in their parking lot.

And...as many have already mentioned...all bets are off...and NOTHING will work if the connections to the battery and the chassis...or the cabling...are not good.

Battery and alternator are electrically connected...so they will always read the same voltage. Battery should read 12.5-12.8 volts with the engine not running. When the engine IS running, the alternator should increase the voltage up to 14-15 volts. (This allows the alternator to re-charge the battery while your vehicle is running.) A different voltage while the engine is running would indicate bad alternator. A LOWER voltage than 12.5 volts on the battery when the car is not running would indicate a bad battery or a discharged battery. (But...a DISCHARGED battery might not be a BAD battery...big difference.) Since your battery is basically brand new...I'd guess that the battery is good...still might be discharged...but will not be a bad battery.
Thanks for the replies. I cleaned most of the the contacts with a wire brush. I'll have to hit them again with some sand paper. Also, I bought my old battery 2 years ago or more. The place that it came from had a lot of customers complain about them and bring them back. So not only did I have a faulty battery, I believe you all are right about cleaning the contacts/connectors. As for my Blinkers, My flasher may be going bad. I've always noticed they flash slow and not faster like other vehicles.
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by salad
PCM has nothing to do with turn signals.

Disassemble every electrical connector you can find. If it is a large enough mating surface, sand or use another abrasive material until shiny. This will include all body grounds and main power connections and even relay and fuse pins. Then clean off all remaining residues and bits with electrical (or 'electronic') contact cleaner. When dry, reassemble with a conductive grease like Gardner Bender OX-GARD or Sanchem NO-OX-ID Special A. These products are used in the power, radio, and telecom industries to prevent corrosion on critical and mixed-metal joints (such as aluminum to copper splices) and promote a good connection. Do the same for electrical connectors. Obviously you can't sand them all, I've had very good luck with a 1" brass wire brush. Also use the electrical grease on the connector pins. Dielectric grease should be applied around the edges of plastic connectors like caulking to keep water out. Don't use it on the actual pins.

I've used the above to restore function to many things including returning corroded connectors back from the dead. I'm glad your alternator and battery weren't replaced for naught but you really need to ensure your wires and connections are SOLID before throwing random parts at the problem.
Hello All!! Thought I'd update you guys. As I was driving home from work last night, my voltage gauge kept getting lower and lower, the dash lights became dimmer. As soon as I got home I tore the Alternator out, and replaced it. Next I got some sand paper and sanded the heck outta the ground on the chasis until shinny. Then I looked a my battery cables, the post are super clean, BUT!!, the wires themselves were full of rust and battery crap. So I got out my wire brush, power drill & wire wheel, and went to town on that *****. I connected everything back up and TADA!! Volts are reading perfectly. I know some of you may say thats what I should have done from the start, but at least I know how old the alternator is and that the battery has a 3 year warrenty. Thanks for all the help! Happy Jeeping! Cheers!!
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