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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 10:55 PM
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"At 71 years of age my aggravation level has been tested to it's end. Love the little Cherokee so would like to save it. "

(As I mentioned, my dad was October as well..


It's an 88 Pete....
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DFlintstone
"At 71 years of age my aggravation level has been tested to it's end. Love the little Cherokee so would like to save it. "

(As I mentioned, my dad was October as well..


It's an 88 Pete....
Tip 27......
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 01:12 AM
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Yea. How are you at soldering Skip? If the C-101 connector were chopped out and eliminated you might be less likely to crush this one. (it's 20 something wires). But then there IS #2, a good cleaning should suffice. Pretty much all the critical stuff goes through that connector.

Then that "gang of grounds" all at the dipstick tube. Both the engine and trans computers need that ground good. Then that braided strap off the back of the valve cover, bolted to paint on the firewall!
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 08:05 AM
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Yea. How are you at soldering Skip? If the C-101 connector were chopped out and eliminated you might be less likely to crush this one. (it's 20 something wires). But then there IS #2, a good cleaning should suffice. Pretty much all the critical stuff goes through that connector.

Then that "gang of grounds" all at the dipstick tube. Both the engine and trans computers need that ground good. Then that braided strap off the back of the valve cover, bolted to paint on the firewall!
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 01:52 PM
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Howdy flintstone, I can solder but prefer not to LOL but my oldest son is a pro at it as he builds his own PC's and does all kinds of electronic stuff so if it becomes necessary you can believe it will be farmed out. dropping things into the Bellhousing: So your saying there is an inspection plate that can be removed to get to something that may be in there? Also not understanding how one gets both arms up in that area to control anything, looked pretty tight to me and will be lucky to get one arm and hand up there. I understand the orientation as that's how I went in to look at it, definitely see the advantage of dropping the cross member and allowing the tranny to drop a bit for more room to operate. Funny you should mention that braided strap as I looked at that thing for ten minutes and wondered how it would ground also. White paint on everything including the nut. I decided at one point that I should take my small grinder to the area and make sure there is a good ground surface for it. Oh, no moisture in the cab at all especially around the fuses so that's good. I'm really leaning towards that hydraulic system being vacuum bound so will take that nasty cap (old oil and grease on it) and clean it real good. Time to go get started on this stuff, will check in later this evening. ++
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by skipp42
Also not understanding how one gets both arms up in that area to control anything,
Comon buddy, you gotta meet me 1/2 way here. Read post #42 again. (&59) Your right is way back and you don't need to drop the cross-member. You would only pull the inspection plate if you drop a bolt.

Supper! Have the kid do Cruiser's #27, one wire at a time. Clean the grounds at the dipstick and do the sensor ground test. It's likely you will be glad you did. (your dog will come back and the sand will wash out of the creek!)

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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DFlintstone
Evening Skip. The CPS, and the plastic deal you will toss in the trash if it has one, cover where anything might fall in. I've done a few with no problem, but maybe each fifth poster manages to drop a bolt in there while removing/installing their CPS. I just was giving a "heads up" to use your left hand to keep control of things. (the bolt, Really a screw), can be removed by pulling the inspection cover below, were that to happen. Don.
Good Evening Don, Cruiser, well getting that CPS out was a piece of cake, a walk in the park, but I think those Atheist Automotive Designers/ engineers should be told that there is a GOD and he will surely condemn them to Hellfire and Damnation for the misery they have put on thousands and thousands of our Jeep Owner Brethren who have had to work on their Creations. Well when it got clear of everything I wasn't sure it was a CPS, looked more like a BLOB of grease and oil residue with a lot of gritty stuff caked on it. Once scraped and cleaned I saw the plastic cover that was mentioned. You don't reuse this Plastic piece??? Since there is no way possible for me to get a finger and thumb on those bolts I think the install of the CPS is going to be the difficult part. I loosened the bolts with the 3/8 extensions and swivel with no problem then went up top and reached down to remove the bolts and washers but it's impossible to get a thumb and finger on them so just used two fingers to extract them. that worked great but without a thumb in there to grip, starting them into the threads is gonna be really tough. I could just JB weld the bolts to the sockets and once tightened just leave the sockets LOL, just kidding. Break time over, need to finish it up. will update when finished.
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 07:16 PM
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Yes, can that plastic deal, it's not needed. Yea, good point, in my writeup, I'll be sure to mention you can do it without a left thumb!

I've crammed a cigarette but in a socket that was too deep. Electrical tape might help hold the bolt. I managed without ether. That universal after the 3" extension needs to be stiff enough to guide the bolt. A "flopping" universal there is a problem....
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by skipp42
I think those Atheist Automotive Designers/ engineers should be told that there is a GOD and he will surely condemn them to Hellfire and Damnation for the misery they have put on thousands and thousands of our Jeep Owner Brethren who have had to work on their Creations.
Well written and worth saving! Personally I wondered if the designers were not "spanking" the engineers, "oh yea? we'll show you who really knows what's up here" We will make it all, almost fit.
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by skipp42
will update when finished.
Hope you meant "done", not finished......
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Old Nov 8, 2014 | 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DFlintstone
Hope you meant "done", not finished......
Hey there Don, Cruiser, checking on my last post and I don't see it. After completing the CPS install I went back over stuff and rechecked to make sure I hadn't overlooked anything. Took my Dremal tool and with a sanding disk I took the paint off of that grounding strap area, had to remove paint from the threads also in the weld nut then reinstalled the strap. Musta helped as I now have a solid dash panel with all gauges working. The Love/Hate relationship I was having with the old gal is back on LOL, she has been working great all week and no Stalling, bucking or nose diving at all. Now you know better Don, it had to be "Done" as all Jeepers, even us newbee's know your never "Finished" if your gonna own one. Right? Timing couldn't have been better as we have Snow in the forecast coming to Denver next week. I printed out Cruiser's tip's and how to do's and made a little book that will be kept in my garage. You guys have been Great with all the help and info, just want you to know how grateful I am. Since I'm a member now I guess you won't mind if I hang around a bit. Oldest son wants no part in doing the C-101 solder job so guess I'll be taking that on myself but think I'll wait til spring to do it. Youngest son (38) said he would like to see it with a 6" lift but I don't see a need for that, then he reminds me I'm probably not going to be around to much longer and when he gets the jeep he'd like it to have a 6" lift on it. I'd be willing to do 3 inches and him help, (Smile) then I'll will it to his sister for him being an ***. LOL Will check in on Sunday, You all have a great Saturday and "Happy Motoring in the Boonies".
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Old Nov 8, 2014 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by skipp42
Hey there Don, Cruiser, checking on my last post and I don't see it. After completing the CPS install I went back over stuff and rechecked to make sure I hadn't overlooked anything. Took my Dremal tool and with a sanding disk I took the paint off of that grounding strap area, had to remove paint from the threads also in the weld nut then reinstalled the strap. Musta helped as I now have a solid dash panel with all gauges working. The Love/Hate relationship I was having with the old gal is back on LOL, she has been working great all week and no Stalling, bucking or nose diving at all. Now you know better Don, it had to be "Done" as all Jeepers, even us newbee's know your never "Finished" if your gonna own one. Right? Timing couldn't have been better as we have Snow in the forecast coming to Denver next week. I printed out Cruiser's tip's and how to do's and made a little book that will be kept in my garage. You guys have been Great with all the help and info, just want you to know how grateful I am. Since I'm a member now I guess you won't mind if I hang around a bit. Oldest son wants no part in doing the C-101 solder job so guess I'll be taking that on myself but think I'll wait til spring to do it. Youngest son (38) said he would like to see it with a 6" lift but I don't see a need for that, then he reminds me I'm probably not going to be around to much longer and when he gets the jeep he'd like it to have a 6" lift on it. I'd be willing to do 3 inches and him help, (Smile) then I'll will it to his sister for him being an ***. LOL Will check in on Sunday, You all have a great Saturday and "Happy Motoring in the Boonies".
What a happy ending!! Way to stick with it.
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And the crowd cheers! ...........: headbang:

Well done! Let's hope its a "happy beginning!..
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Old Nov 17, 2014 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by skipp42
Question: I have an 88 pioneer and it does have one, damn thing gets so hot you can't touch it but a second. Is that normal? would that have any bearing on my stalling issue?
Update to a really hot Ballast Resistor: I didn't like the idea of that resistor getting so hot, even the new one did it, so I did a fix for it. I cut a section of rain gutter down spout the length of the ceramic, unhooked the joint that forms a tube and folded it over three times to form an approximately 3" X 3" square. Since the downspout tube is not flat it made it to thick to use with the original metal bolt so I ball peened the center and drilled a hole then mounted the resistor with the aluminum between the resistor and the fender wall. Now it gets warm but not HOT. Should last a lot longer than stock LOL
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Old Nov 17, 2014 | 08:50 PM
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The early 87, (at least), didn't even have a resistor. Cruiser says it was added afer people complained about noise from the pump. It can be simply bypassed!

(worken on my keypad, got most back.seems cleaning some stuff can booger others....

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