See posts 39 and 44.

 

How's it going Skip?

 

Hey Flintstone, hope your on. just tried to put my jeep in the garage and it had a surprise for me. Started right up but wouldn't go into gear, any gear. I do a "what the h--- is going on? Put it in 1st while engine was off, pushed in the clutch and cranked it and the darn thing started moving towards the garage with the clutch pushed in t5o the floorboard.??? Thank God it didn't start as I only had about 5 feet before entering the garage. What's going on I have never had any auto do this unless the clutch was gone. To recap: Once started it won't go into gear. Shut it off and it shifts just as normal into any gear. If you try to start it while in gear it tries to take off like the clutch is out. ??????

 

Something failed in the clutch hydraulic system. Probably from between enfine and trans or at clutch master to clutch pedal under the dash. How's the fluid level?

 

And, how does the pedal, feel...Cruiser is your guy here but I was going to mention a couple things. My 84 has has trouble with the slave cyl leaking, so after sitting I find the reservoir empty, and it no worky! (about no resistance on the petal). Got to bleed it to run it. (I did recently clean up that slave, good for now)

Also something to watch out for. If the master Cyl leaks, it can run right out of the fuse-box! , drips right off the fuses! Something to watch. Makes a mess of the fuse-box given time.

I see you are manual trans. As Cruiser mentions, the CPS is a little magnet that can pick up debris from the clutch. Not sure if you were able to access his link so I thought I'd mention that.

 

Thanks for getting back to me. my first Jeep and didn't know they had a hydraulic assisted clutch. Will ask Cruiser the $64,000 questions LOL. Still trying to figure how to navigate the site and didn't know how assistance was metered out, thought whoever had the answers jumped in. I'm catching on. Thanks again.

 

Hey there Cruiser. Being a newbe, didn't know how you guys work the site and that each problem has a Solver assigned to it so to speak. I was given the understanding that your my guiding Light and I'm looking forward to getting this jeep back on the road. I guess you all can see the post's that are put up. If so then you know the problem that just arose today. In response to Mr. Flintstones post I have been noticing a slight oil/fluid leak but it was ever so slight, still it had to be coming from something, shoulda dipped my nose in it to see which fluid it was. Anyway the clutch pressure feels normal if she had dropped with no resistance I wouldn't have been caught so off guard when it tried to take off. Question: Where exactly is the slave located and if there is a reservoir, where is the filler located. It was getting dark when I looked but saw neither. My first jeep so be patient while I learn.

 

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We're not really assigned to any area. Some just have more experience in certain areas than others.

The system is filled through the clutch master cylinder to the left of the brake master cylinder.

Keep in mind that Left and Right are called out as if you were in the driver's seat.

 

Hey, pretty cool video there Pete! Yea Skip, the Clutch master cylinder is there in the corner of the engine bay, drivers side. It takes the same fluid as the brake master cylinder, (Dot 3 brake fluid). You might as well top up your brake fluid while you are there.

If you clicked on "User Control Panel", above left, and filled out which Jeep you have that would make it allot easier for people to help.

I don't know weather your slave is interior or exterior. I cut a hole in my passenger side floor to get at my exterior clutch slave cylinder.

 

Good afternoon Cruiser, Flintstone. update on the jeep from Hell. found the reservoir for the clutch and took the cap off, it was down just a bit but more than half full but topped if off since I was there. Put my leg in to reach the pedal and pumped it a couple of times to see if I could see any bubbles coming up indicating air in the line, nothing. Put the cap back on, got in and started it up, tried the shifter to first and it went in like nothing had ever been wrong. Now I realize it's just a couple of days until Halloween and I don't really celebrate it any longer ( I'm 72 ) unless you consider eating the candy (YUM_YUM) as celebrating it. But what is the possibility that some goulish goblims are just messing with me? .
A little levity there guys, not so distraught today and back on course to get that cps installed. Had a thought: is that cop supposed to be a vented one? Perhaps a vacuum had occurred in the reservoir and when I opened the cap it released the vacuum??? Just an uneducated stab in the dark! Anyway, it's a better day and I'm smiling. Had a pair of those damn ramps in my garage for 15 years and only used them once while working on my Street Buggy, Gave them to a friend about a month ago so I'm using jack stands to get her up but always leave the jack in place just in case. Will let you all know how this venture woks out unless I have a problem, in which case I be checking in for answers LOL

 

IIRC the bore on the slave cyl is about 3/4". I doubt it moves much with clutch wear, so 1/2 in the res might mean you are leaking. (Just rambling here). So do keep an eye on that fuse-box, and maybe someone can see the inner firewall below the clutch master.

Small chance you had some air in there and when you messed with it the other day you got it to work out? Yes the cap is vented, must be. Unlike the Brake master, it doesn't have a bellows...

 

Fishing the two feet of extensions, (with the universal behind the last 3" extension) from by the tanny cross member, to the 7/16, (11mm) bolts on the CPS is almost the easy part.

Laying crossways, with your feet out under the passenger side, getting your left hand up there past the front drive-line to guide things might be the harder part. Listen. It's when you pull, loosen pressure on the ratchet, when the socket comes off, that's when the bolt falls inside the bell housing. (or even the socket) Keep pressure on the socket, until you are sure you have a grip with your left hand.

 

Good Evening Cruiser. Got the jeep in the garage no problems. Will be putting it on stands in the morning but was wondering about an opening or vent? Something that a loose bolt can fall into? Have seen several warnings about not dropping a bolt as it may be lost into the bell housing. Can u clarify this for me? how big is the opening and exactly where is it? Being a retired drywall contractor I have all kinds of patching stuff and wondered if it may not be smart to put an adhesive patch over whatever opening I'm hearing about just as a precautionary measure. With the luck I'm having lately I sure wouldn't want to put anything into the clutch/flywheel area.

 

Evening Skip. The CPS, and the plastic deal you will toss in the trash if it has one, cover where anything might fall in. I've done a few with no problem, but maybe each fifth poster manages to drop a bolt in there while removing/installing their CPS. I just was giving a "heads up" to use your left hand to keep control of things. (the bolt, Really a screw), can be removed by pulling the inspection cover below, were that to happen. Don.

 

Here's what you're dealing with. anything to help keep the bolt secure in the socket would be good. electrical tape etc.