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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 08:56 PM
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So I need to replace my front axle seal in my 90 Cherokee. It originally had the vac disconnect but the PO replaced the axle shaft with a one piece so I'm not sure what axle seals I should purchase, the ones with vacu discconnect or without?

Edit: Axle is a D30, figure I will repleace both sides

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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 09:27 PM
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If the outer (P/S) seal can actually accommodate a one-piece shaft I'd go that route. Extra oil capacity is a good thing.
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 09:45 PM
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Salad I just saw this post of yours:
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Yes, on the non-disconnect Dana 30 the only "axle seal" is near the differential. The outer part that keeps debris out is called a "dust shield". See items # 23 and 24 in this diagram: http://www.4wd.com/hardparts/HP_PartList.aspx?hpDID=196
So for mine do you think I need items #23, 24, 26?
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If you want. The oil seals are 21 and 26.
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 11:14 PM
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So just to be sure:
x1 dust shields (#23)
http://www.4wd.com/Jeep-Drivetrain-J..._pn=CRO4797769

x1 outter slinger (#24)
http://www.4wd.com/Jeep-Drivetrain-J...pn=CRO83500201

x1 Inner seals (#21) (driver side)
http://www.4wd.com/Jeep-Drivetrain-J..._pn=D%2fS42500

x1 Inner (#26) (Passenger side)
http://www.4wd.com/Jeep-Drivetrain-J...pn=OAI16526.03

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or do I need
x2 (#26) http://www.4wd.com/Jeep-Drivetrain-J...pn=CROJ8121781
Since the vacu/disco was removed and axle replaced with a one piece?

Sorry if I seem a little lost, going to have someone help me with the install I just wanna make sure I have the correct parts.

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I'm no expert on this, but don't you need to use the seal in the diff housing like was intended for the one piece axle? I doubt the one piece axle has a machined surface for the old cAD type to ride on it.
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Cruiser's right. For some reason I was thinking of a vac bypass mod when I typed that (not actually a one-piece shaft). The driver's side seal is the correct one. My phone apparently doesn't feel like displaying that diagram. Omix-Ada 165.3602, National/Timken 710068, or SKF 11899 are alternate part numbers.
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Originally Posted by salad
Cruiser's right. For some reason I was thinking of a vac bypass mod when I typed that (not actually a one-piece shaft). The driver's side seal is the correct one. My phone apparently doesn't feel like displaying that diagram. Omix-Ada 165.3602, National/Timken 710068, or SKF 11899 are alternate part numbers.
Alright so driver side is correct and for passenger just order one of.the part numbers above right?

Should I still order the other parts like dust cover and what not?
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If you're doing a rebuild sure, why not? My plastic dust shield things were fine.
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Originally Posted by salad
If you're doing a rebuild sure, why not? My plastic dust shield things were fine.
Thanks for all the help so It looks like
Amazon.com: Timken 710068 Seal: Automotive Amazon.com: Timken 710068 Seal: Automotive
will work for the passenger side if I understand this correctly and then I'll just order the driver side one I already linked below with the dust shields as well just in case, right?
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Drivers side and passenger side are identical with one-piece shafts. Sure if the price is right replace as much as you can
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Originally Posted by salad
Drivers side and passenger side are identical with one-piece shafts. Sure if the price is right replace as much as you can
Ahhh okay cool so I'll just go with Timken one I listed. Thank you soooo much for helping me with this!!!!

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So what axle shaft do you think the PO replaced the two piece one with? Is there any way to figure out? This is my original thread I started when I was going to bypass the vac disco but found out that it was a one piece https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/cad...ed-fix-175364/

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No problem! For actually changing the seals I bought a socket that fits both sides of them, adapters since it was 3/4" drive, and a pile of 3/8" extensions. Stuck the contraption down the axle tubes and went at it with a rubber mallet. I figure I can use the extensions when my CPS goes out anyway hehehe
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Originally Posted by salad
No problem! For actually changing the seals I bought a socket that fits both sides of them, adapters since it was 3/4" drive, and a pile of 3/8" extensions. Stuck the contraption down the axle tubes and went at it with a rubber mallet. I figure I can use the extensions when my CPS goes out anyway hehehe


Ya I'm going to go to China freight and pick up some extensions for.sure, do you happen to recall what size socket?
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I used 32 or 34mm or something. Can check tonight
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