Dfread

I'm going to be taking off the front hubs soon and am wondering what torque I need the axle nut to be if I'm going to use permatex anti-seize on the threads. I've read where people say that you basically divide the torque by half when you use it but I'd be worried constantly that the thing would come loose.
I smear most of the bolts on the jeep with a good amount of anti-seize and don't worry about it, but this nut is a pretty critical part. I guess this could go with lug nut studs too because I smeared those with anti-seize but they haven't budged with 100 ft/lb of torque. Or maybe I have them over torqued with 100 ft/lb and anti-seize. As I said I found a couple posts stating it is basically half but I'd be scared of endangering myself or others and especially the vehicular unit! Thanks for any input, this forum tremendously helps me understand and learn how to work on a car.

EvstaG

I would torque them to the recommended spec..., which if I recall correctly was 175ftlb on my Jeep, but confirming with a FSM or another member here is certainly a good idea. That nut has a locking "nut cover" with a cotter pin to secure it so it doesn't come off.

CCKen

Yes, you would be endangering yourself and others by using anti-seize.

Do not use anti-seize on the Hub nuts or the wheel lug nuts.

The torque on the Hub nut is 175 ft/lbs. The factory service manual does not say to use grease, oil, or anti-seize on the Hub nuts. It's a dry torque application.

100 to 115 ft/lbs on the lug nuts is fine. The factory service manual specificlly states not to use grease, oil, or anti-seize on the lug nuts. It's a dry torque application.

xj_maniac_newb

Yep 175 lbs. And i'd recommend getting some new pins for the retainer too, they'll probably break when you take them out.

ThatAintStock00

Everything on my Jeep gets anti-seize if i can get it on there. Including my hub nuts.

Replaced them 10k miles ago, with anti-sieze and a torque of 115 ft/lbs and never looked back. After what I went through to get them off, I'm still feeling a tinge in my back from pulling and banging.....

I did check them 2 weeks ago while I had the brakes off for longer hoses, and they are still at 115 ft/lbs exactly.

Aljay

I too use anti seize on everything I take apart on my jeep. I used it on my hubs too.

CCKen

"I too use anti seize on everything I take apart on my jeep. I used it on my hubs too."

God help us!

Aljay

Yep Help us that have to listen to the rest of you whine about rusted together parts.

Dfread

It seems we have a conflict here. I'm leaning towards using anti-seize and 175 ft/lb (possibly a little less like 170 or 165). After some research it seems that there is a debate in this of yes or no but I have yet to see or read actual evidence that you should not anti-seize it, and that the benefits outweigh the negatives. Would be great if some more people could add real life scenarios of something exploding or what-not. Or if it just makes removal easy.

wiggles

Don't worry about over tightening that nut... you aren't going to do anything to it. Slather it then put the cap and pin on then forget about it

Jamie57

Over 45 years ago my father who worked at a Nuclear power plant brought home a squeeze bottle of some stuff he called Never seize. Man you'd think that stuff was Crack Cocaine the way I've been going through that stuff since then. I've used it on EVERYTHING. Bicycles Motorcycles Stock cars drag cars customers cars my cars and military vehicles (who by the way DEMANDED it be used).
I have always torqued at half or a little more and have NEVER had a failure from something coming loose. I've had the component fail but never come loose. And as anyone who has had to replace something much sooner than you thought you'd have to, I'm glad I used the stuff. The only place I DO NOT use it is head bolts and Ubolts.
BTW I still have that squeeze bottle AND it's cap. Thanks Dad.

Aljay

I build equipment that cost millions of dollars , one company we build for specs stainless fasteners you always use anti seize on stainless.
Company policy dictates/demands I assemble all nuts and bolts or other thread fastening devices with anti seize.
I have 2 huge bottles of the stuff at my shop one is the grey one is the copper.

CCKen

When you get around to it (if you haven't already) make sure you slather it on the flexplate to crank flange bolts and on the bell housing to engine bolts.

Good luck OP.

xjheep92

I don't know where you guys live but in new England if you don't use anti-seize good luck ever getting things apart again. especially 20 year old bolts on an xj. just check the bolts every once in awhile if you're worried..... I've never had a problem with them coming loose.

Jamie57

Now you're just being petty. Some of us disagree with you. Probably just as many agree with you.
The OP asked for opinions and we gave him ours just like you did yours.
It's up to him to decide which information to use to guide him.