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Another knocking engine 1997 XJ

Old Aug 15, 2012 | 07:01 AM
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I'm new around here, bought the jeep somehow convinced it was just exhaust leak noise
spent some time researching the various knocks and ticks of the 4.0s, popped off the valve cover and all was operating fine there, compression checked out on all cylinders. It does it all the time, it only seems to fade under acceleration from a cruising state, and letting off the gas completely

I uploaded a couple videos for y'all to have a listen to. I think one way or another a engine swap/rebuild will be in order soon. Is there any engine related problems for the 1997 year, and what used 4.0 would be ideal to seek out for swapping?

http://youtu.be/9Tdli8A7IdE

http://youtu.be/YiAGhU9sWZU
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 01:49 PM
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Sounds like my 00 xj except quite louder...same exact noise though and ive been wondering what it is for quite awhile
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 02:55 PM
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How is the oil pressure? I would check the torque converter bolts and flexplate first for tightness and cracks.
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 03:04 PM
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https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f51/ho...ocking-125547/

Start with this.
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 1996sportXJ
Good call.

Also, try adding a qt of MMO next time you replace your oil.
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 03:21 AM
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My XJ is a 5spd, Unless an actual flywheel can be the issue too.
I've changed the oil, with MMO in it. The oil pressure is around 42psi while driving, 20 or so at idle
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 04:08 AM
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Flywheels are usually a lot thicker and lest prone to cracking, but I suppose that the bolts could still be loose at the flywheel to crank bolts- requires removing the trans or engine.

Also, before you remove the engine you could pull the oil pan and check each one of the rod bearings. With a noise that loud it will be easy to tell if one is loose.

If it were me I wouldn't be reving it that much- if it's really a rod thats bad you see it come through the side of the block soon.
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 01:53 PM
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I just had that sound, for me it was the 5th cylinder piston skirt. Had great compression on that cylinder but when i pulled the pan the skirt was at the bottom. I got lucky and was able to remove and replace it so I could get it back on the road (building a new motor for it now)..
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantMLS
I just had that sound, for me it was the 5th cylinder piston skirt. Had great compression on that cylinder but when i pulled the pan the skirt was at the bottom. I got lucky and was able to remove and replace it so I could get it back on the road (building a new motor for it now)..
The 4.0 is a very manly engine, it does not have piston skirts, it has piston kilts. And just like a regular kilt, if you look under it you will find a rod hanging there.
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Bustedback
The 4.0 is a very manly engine, it does not have piston skirts, it has piston kilts. And just like a regular kilt, if you look under it you will find a rod hanging there.
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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 07:56 AM
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If it is a piston skirt, is it safe to drive on? It's probably to gouged to simply replace the cylinder now. Explains the magnetic slivers in the oil dipstick.
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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by E4Marty
It is NOT classic pinging or pre-ignition. Some kind of repeating mechanical noise.

Reminds my of when I was a kid and I put cards to hit my bicycle spokes. Does Jeep use a rubber timing belt? Perhaps coming apart?
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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 10:52 AM
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Hmmm...doesn't sound like an exhaust leak or loose flexplate to torque converter bolts (anyway, if you have a 5 spd, there is no torque converter), those noises are loudest down below...sounds more like a top end noise. If your engine is making metal, there is internal damage. Remove the oil filter and open it up and see what's inside (there is a special tool that will slit open the filter). Good chance there is an engine teardown in your future.
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