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Okay so I got the cure by RuffStuff in today and decided I would replace the tie rod since I had to remove it anyways. It just occurred to me that I may need to do and alignment since I replaced that tie rod. Steering wheel is not centered anymore however I don't notice a pull so I'm debating spending $50 or just centering the wheel and calling it good. Do you need an alignment after replacing the tie rod that connects to the drag link. Ps kudos to RuffStuff the cure, well, cured that infamous Jeep deadspot.
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Because of the nature of the tie-rod and the drag-link, the short answer is yes. Because it is really easy to bump the toe-in/out out of its original setting when getting the tie-rod in/out.
However, after I rebuilt my front end, I did an at home alignment by measuring the toe-in myself between the wheels (using a tape measure etc. - you can find instructions for the XJ on youtube). Then the next day I took it to my normal shop and had it aligned (didn't trust myself - had never done it before). The computerized printout showed that I had the alignment correct to within just a few hundredths of a percent. So it was a total rip-off considering that on an XJ they literally only adjust one thing as far as the alignment is concerned (the tie rod - to adjust toe in/out). The steering angle (steering wheel position) is easily adjusted at home and does not require an alignment.
So whether you pay a shop or do it yourself, you should check that the toe-in is where it should be. If you care about your tires and how well your vehicle tracks on the road.
However, after I rebuilt my front end, I did an at home alignment by measuring the toe-in myself between the wheels (using a tape measure etc. - you can find instructions for the XJ on youtube). Then the next day I took it to my normal shop and had it aligned (didn't trust myself - had never done it before). The computerized printout showed that I had the alignment correct to within just a few hundredths of a percent. So it was a total rip-off considering that on an XJ they literally only adjust one thing as far as the alignment is concerned (the tie rod - to adjust toe in/out). The steering angle (steering wheel position) is easily adjusted at home and does not require an alignment.
So whether you pay a shop or do it yourself, you should check that the toe-in is where it should be. If you care about your tires and how well your vehicle tracks on the road.
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You've at least got to check to be sure your toe isn't all out of whack. First thing I'd do is compare the length of the old one to the new one. If the new one is longer, you're going to have issues with toe out. If it's shorter, you'll have too much toe in. Adjust the ends as necessary.
Edit: I'll second what Jordan said above.
Edit: I'll second what Jordan said above.
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You guys are correct! I drove it on the e-way to pick up a buddy and it's pretty flighty at 70 mph so I won't be driving it until I get the alignment done. @jordan96xj I've never had good luck with the diy method, don't get me wrong it's better than nothing but I've never managed to get the toe exact using the ol' tape measure.
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You guys are correct! I drove it on the e-way to pick up a buddy and it's pretty flighty at 70 mph so I won't be driving it until I get the alignment done. @jordan96xj I've never had good luck with the diy method, don't get me wrong it's better than nothing but I've never managed to get the toe exact using the ol' tape measure.
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Because of the nature of the tie-rod and the drag-link, the short answer is yes. Because it is really easy to bump the toe-in/out out of its original setting when getting the tie-rod in/out.
However, after I rebuilt my front end, I did an at home alignment by measuring the toe-in myself between the wheels (using a tape measure etc. - you can find instructions for the XJ on youtube). Then the next day I took it to my normal shop and had it aligned (didn't trust myself - had never done it before). The computerized printout showed that I had the alignment correct to within just a few hundredths of a percent. So it was a total rip-off considering that on an XJ they literally only adjust one thing as far as the alignment is concerned (the tie rod - to adjust toe in/out). The steering angle (steering wheel position) is easily adjusted at home and does not require an alignment.
So whether you pay a shop or do it yourself, you should check that the toe-in is where it should be. If you care about your tires and how well your vehicle tracks on the road.
However, after I rebuilt my front end, I did an at home alignment by measuring the toe-in myself between the wheels (using a tape measure etc. - you can find instructions for the XJ on youtube). Then the next day I took it to my normal shop and had it aligned (didn't trust myself - had never done it before). The computerized printout showed that I had the alignment correct to within just a few hundredths of a percent. So it was a total rip-off considering that on an XJ they literally only adjust one thing as far as the alignment is concerned (the tie rod - to adjust toe in/out). The steering angle (steering wheel position) is easily adjusted at home and does not require an alignment.
So whether you pay a shop or do it yourself, you should check that the toe-in is where it should be. If you care about your tires and how well your vehicle tracks on the road.
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I've only ever done it that one time. It was shockingly close to being spot-on. Maybe I was just lucky, but I basically went off the youtube advice of setting it up for 1/8 inch of toe-in. If I ever get the chance to do it again, perhaps I'll follow up with another computer alignment to see if it was just luck or not.
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I don't have an opinion on whether someone uses a shop or not. But I think most XJ owners probably -overestimate- how much is being done for the money they fork over to the shop for an alignment.
Having a 4x4 experienced shop work on alignment when you have a lifted, custom suspension with many additional adjustment opportunities. I totally get that, and would probably do the same.
Having a 4x4 experienced shop work on alignment when you have a lifted, custom suspension with many additional adjustment opportunities. I totally get that, and would probably do the same.
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Like I said that was just my experience there's plenty of guys on this forum that diy the alignment and it works for them. Part of my problem is I park on the street so it's difficult to get my wheels dead center because of road crown plus I'm very picky about my alignment.
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I don't have an opinion on whether someone uses a shop or not. But I think most XJ owners probably -overestimate- how much is being done for the money they fork over to the shop for an alignment.
Having a 4x4 experienced shop work on alignment when you have a lifted, custom suspension with many additional adjustment opportunities. I totally get that, and would probably do the same.
Having a 4x4 experienced shop work on alignment when you have a lifted, custom suspension with many additional adjustment opportunities. I totally get that, and would probably do the same.
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