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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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So this started when I got my stock tires and wheels sold for good money, and I decided to get a new set of tires for the Moabs. I went with 265/75R16s (up from 245s) MT/Rs. They would clear just fine if the swaybar always stayed connected, but it doesn't

I picked up some jks adjustable coil spacers on craigslist a while back for cheap, so I figure I could use them in the front and block up the rear. (I know, I know, blocks are evil)

Apparently the jks acs at the lowest setting space up 1.5", which should be more than enough, and I don't think a 1.5" block in the rear should hurt.

Has anybody done something like this? What problems am I going to run into? Alignment, ride quality, etc. Should I really have longer LCA's? I'm also wondering if my driveshafts will handle it. Probably should have stuck with the 245's but oh well.

I would appreciate any input!

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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 07:30 PM
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Probably just need adjustable upper control arms, and an adjustable track bar. I would build a set of bastard packs for the rear and run longer shackels, this will also give you some positive pinion angle. I would not run blocks, or just cut the fenders and add some cut out flairs.

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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 07:30 PM
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Get a 1" or 2" lift shackles..Don't get blocks they suck and will wear out your leaf packs. Plus the shackles should improve flex..I know it's either tomken or TNT that makes a nice set of boomerang style shackles and not the revolver style.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 10:16 AM
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i started out putting in 3/4" spacers in the front, which still didn't give the the clearance i wanted and didn't have any negative effects, so i just went ahead and put on the jks acos on and blocked up the rear.(i'll get add a leaves or something to replace the blocks) I didn't change anything else, and it flexes and drives like it did before. i can tell the front axle is shifted to the left a little bit, so i should probably get a adjustable track bar, but wouldn't that change the geometry with the steering and cause bumpsteer?


i cranked them just a little when i had the winch on the front.


i went rock crawling in co with it, and it performed great! im around 5.25" of lift now.

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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 11:14 AM
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It looks like your front metal brake lines are in the original place. Did you add longer flex lines? The RE 3.5" lift recommends straightening out the metal brake line and redrilling the mounting hole.
Why did you go away from the MTR's? I thought after 3 sets you were a diehard fan? LOL...
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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It looks like your front metal brake lines are in the original place. Did you add longer flex lines? The RE 3.5" lift recommends straightening out the metal brake line and redrilling the mounting hole.
Why did you go away from the MTR's? I thought after 3 sets you were a diehard fan? LOL...
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the metal lines are in the original place, someone on here have me the tip to get YJ lines, and they are more than long enough even after i added the extra lift.

go away from MTRs? I didn't, and wouldn't, do such a thing......what makes you think i did?
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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Oops, I misread your post... I see you still are a diehard MTR man!
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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im looking to do the same thing with my RE 3.5, and want about another 1.5'' so what size were the jks acos spacers? and keep the thread up cuz im sure theres plenty of guys that started and around 3.5 and dont want to buy an all new set up for some more clearance - thanks
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by aircrewallan
im looking to do the same thing with my RE 3.5, and want about another 1.5'' so what size were the jks acos spacers? and keep the thread up cuz im sure theres plenty of guys that started and around 3.5 and dont want to buy an all new set up for some more clearance - thanks
the jks adjustable spacers give a minimum of about 1.5" lift. then you can adjust them to like 3.5", but 1.5 appears to be maximum for the 3.5 kit anyway, so if i was you, i would save some money and just get non-adjustable 1.5" spacers. i picked up mine on craigslist for cheap, and it was nice to crank them up a little more when i had the winch on.

becasue the axle is shifted to the driver's side, my right tire rubs my discos when i turn left hard. wouldn't be an issue with more backspacing or wheel spacers. Like i said, an adjustable track bar would be great, as long as it wouldn't give me bumpsteer.

My biggest question is whats the best way to get the lift in the back. the blocks are working fine, but i don't like that setup much. does RE sell an add-a-leaf that could crank them up another 1.5"? (i have the full re packs)

i would say for those out there that are somehow getting by with a 3.5 lift and no sye, don't expect to do this and not have vibes!
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by okcjeeper
Get a 1" or 2" lift shackles..Don't get blocks they suck and will wear out your leaf packs. Plus the shackles should improve flex..I know it's either tomken or TNT that makes a nice set of boomerang style shackles and not the revolver style.
for trails id steer away from the blocks too actually, ive heard good things about the BOOMERANG style shackles but like OKC said stay away from the revolver style cuz they can extend when they unload...<bad jewjew oh and thanks for the info about the spacers, just wasnt sure about the RE 3.5 shocks being limiting either or what the travel differance was with the spacers
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