89 renix crank but no start
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From: Irvine Ca
Year: 1989 2 door
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
i hear the fuel pump, just had full tune up minus the fuel filter
what can it be? where do i start?
ohh and i just swapped ignition switch 7 days ago and everything was working normal up until this morning
what can it be? where do i start?
ohh and i just swapped ignition switch 7 days ago and everything was working normal up until this morning
Last edited by MUKAK; Feb 28, 2013 at 10:09 AM.
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Have you refreshed your grounds at all? You could have a new cps with a poor signal it will still not start.. Have you checked for spark and fuel pressure yet? Also feel free to click on the link in my sig that might help you 2
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how do i check for spark and fuel pressure?
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Renix CPS Testing and Adjusting
Renix CPSs have to put out a strong enough signal to the ECU so that it will provide spark.
Most tests for the CPS suggest checking it for an ohms value. This is unreliable and can cause some wasted time and aggravation in your diagnosis of a no-start issue as the CPS will test good when in fact it is bad.
The problem with the ohms test is you can have the correct amount of resistance through the CPS but it isn’t generating enough voltage to trigger the ECU to provide spark.
Unplug the harness connector from the CPS. Using your voltmeter set on AC volts and probing both wires in the connector going to the CPS, crank the engine over. It won’t start with the CPS disconnected.
You should get a reading of .5 AC volts.
If you are down in the .35 AC volts range or lower on your meter reading, you can have intermittent crank/no-start conditions from your Renix Jeep. Some NEW CPSs (from the big box parts stores) have registered only .2 AC volts while reading the proper resistance!! That’s a definite no-start condition. Best to buy your CPS from Napa or the dealer.
Sometimes on a manual transmission equipped Renix Jeep there is an accumulation of debris on the tip of the CPS. It’s worn off clutch material and since the CPS is a magnet, the metal sticks to the tip of the CPS causing a reduced voltage signal. You MAY get by with cleaning the tip of the CPS off.
A little trick for increasing the output of your CPS is to drill out the upper mounting hole to 3/8" from the stock 5/16", or slot it so the CPS bracket rests on the bell housing when pushed down. Then, when mounting it, hold the CPS down as close to the flywheel as you can while tightening the bolts.
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Renix CPSs have to put out a strong enough signal to the ECU so that it will provide spark.
Most tests for the CPS suggest checking it for an ohms value. This is unreliable and can cause some wasted time and aggravation in your diagnosis of a no-start issue as the CPS will test good when in fact it is bad.
The problem with the ohms test is you can have the correct amount of resistance through the CPS but it isn’t generating enough voltage to trigger the ECU to provide spark.
Unplug the harness connector from the CPS. Using your voltmeter set on AC volts and probing both wires in the connector going to the CPS, crank the engine over. It won’t start with the CPS disconnected.
You should get a reading of .5 AC volts.
If you are down in the .35 AC volts range or lower on your meter reading, you can have intermittent crank/no-start conditions from your Renix Jeep. Some NEW CPSs (from the big box parts stores) have registered only .2 AC volts while reading the proper resistance!! That’s a definite no-start condition. Best to buy your CPS from Napa or the dealer.
Sometimes on a manual transmission equipped Renix Jeep there is an accumulation of debris on the tip of the CPS. It’s worn off clutch material and since the CPS is a magnet, the metal sticks to the tip of the CPS causing a reduced voltage signal. You MAY get by with cleaning the tip of the CPS off.
A little trick for increasing the output of your CPS is to drill out the upper mounting hole to 3/8" from the stock 5/16", or slot it so the CPS bracket rests on the bell housing when pushed down. Then, when mounting it, hold the CPS down as close to the flywheel as you can while tightening the bolts.
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went out to change the CPS and for the hell of it i unplugged the CPS plug and then plugged it back in and now the jeep starts with no problems...
should i still change the CPS or leave it till it completely dies?
should i still change the CPS or leave it till it completely dies?
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Test it just for fun. Let us know the aC voltage output. I've got an idea.
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If you don't already have one, the $5 digital meter from Harbor Freight actually seems to work OK. At least for a while. It will do DC volts and resistance as well as the CPS test.
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ok guys i measured the cps and its showed 194 ohms
also measured the connector while cranking and it showed 6.6 volts
do i still need to change the CPS? it starts normal now like it never happened
also measured the connector while cranking and it showed 6.6 volts
do i still need to change the CPS? it starts normal now like it never happened
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Originally Posted by MUKAK
ok guys i measured the cps and its showed 194 ohms
also measured the connector while cranking and it showed 6.6 volts
do i still need to change the CPS? it starts normal now like it never happened
also measured the connector while cranking and it showed 6.6 volts
do i still need to change the CPS? it starts normal now like it never happened
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Unplug it again. With a small pair of needle nose pliers or whatever you can use, tweak the cylindrical barrels a bit tighter in the harness connector so they grab the opposing pins tighter.


