Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

88 Cherokee rough idle & rough acceleration

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-22-2013, 06:45 PM
  #1  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
tfdilley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default 88 Cherokee rough idle & rough acceleration

Hey everybody, I'm new here but to the point now. I have an 88 4.0 I6 and about a month ago one of my fuel injectors/ fuel pressure regulator started leaking, so I figured time to upgrade and got some all new 4 hole injectors and regulator installed that and started it up, it ran ok untell I put it into drive and it puttered and the idle was rough. Figured I forgot to reset the pcm so I did that and later started it up and it ran smoothly untell a few days ago. I was coming back from an off-roading trip and had to do some four wheeling and I stopped to re-strap some gear and as soon as I got back in and put it in drive it started puttering again and had the rough idle so got it home and checked everything and it looked alright. Also I checked my distributor and rotor and spark plugs and nothing looks wrong and all electrical components work in that system. So does anybody else have this problem or and idea of what it could be. Thanks.
Old 10-23-2013, 12:53 AM
  #2  
CF Veteran
 
Radi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 5,302
Likes: 0
Received 19 Likes on 16 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

I'd start by checking your fuel pressure, might be the warning sign of an aging fuel pump.
Old 10-23-2013, 06:40 AM
  #3  
::CF Moderator::
 
cruiser54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Prescott, Az
Posts: 43,864
Received 1,524 Likes on 1,236 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Good chance you bumped the line from the throttle body to MAP during the injector install.

MAP sensor tube
There is a brittle little tube. It comes out of a rubber plug, low on the engine side of the throttle body. It runs back to the firewall, then up to your MAP sensor, behind the valve cover, higher up on the firewall. It has one vacuum line as already mentioned, with a 3-wire plug in the bottom.
CRUCIAL!! The MAP sensor will tell the ECU to dump fuel with little to no vacuum to the MAP. Any crack or blockage and it will be pig-rich. ( black smoke, fouled black plugs, must hold your foot to the floor to keep the engine running). You can pull the line off the MAP sensor and feel for vacuum with your finger. If it runs!
A visual inspection usually reveals any issues with the line from the throttle body to the MAP sensor.
Attached Thumbnails 88 Cherokee rough idle & rough acceleration-map-tb-hose.jpg  
Old 10-23-2013, 06:42 AM
  #4  
::CF Moderator::
 
cruiser54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Prescott, Az
Posts: 43,864
Received 1,524 Likes on 1,236 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

AND, since you've got an 88 and seem interested in eliminating issues and maintaining your Jeep, click on the pink link in my signature and perform the "fixes" in posts 1 through 4 for starters.
Old 10-26-2013, 12:03 PM
  #5  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
tfdilley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by cruiser54
Good chance you bumped the line from the throttle body to MAP during the injector install.

MAP sensor tube
There is a brittle little tube. It comes out of a rubber plug, low on the engine side of the throttle body. It runs back to the firewall, then up to your MAP sensor, behind the valve cover, higher up on the firewall. It has one vacuum line as already mentioned, with a 3-wire plug in the bottom.
CRUCIAL!! The MAP sensor will tell the ECU to dump fuel with little to no vacuum to the MAP. Any crack or blockage and it will be pig-rich. ( black smoke, fouled black plugs, must hold your foot to the floor to keep the engine running). You can pull the line off the MAP sensor and feel for vacuum with your finger. If it runs!
A visual inspection usually reveals any issues with the line from the throttle body to the MAP sensor.
I visually inspected the tube and also did a running check and there is no blockage or cracks and it has vacuum
Old 10-26-2013, 12:05 PM
  #6  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
tfdilley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Radi
I'd start by checking your fuel pressure, might be the warning sign of an aging fuel pump.
I'll try to get that done today or tomorrow, do you k ow what paid it's suppose to be at?
Old 10-26-2013, 12:12 PM
  #7  
::CF Moderator::
 
cruiser54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Prescott, Az
Posts: 43,864
Received 1,524 Likes on 1,236 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by tfdilley
I'll try to get that done today or tomorrow, do you k ow what paid it's suppose to be at?

Huh?
Old 10-26-2013, 12:21 PM
  #8  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
tfdilley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by cruiser54

Huh?
Stupid phone, do you know what psi the fuel line is suppose to be at?
Old 10-26-2013, 12:28 PM
  #9  
::CF Moderator::
 
cruiser54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Prescott, Az
Posts: 43,864
Received 1,524 Likes on 1,236 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

31 @ idle with the vacuum hose connected to the fuel pressure regulator and 39 with the hose unplugged.
Old 10-28-2013, 02:59 AM
  #10  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
tfdilley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by cruiser54
31 @ idle with the vacuum hose connected to the fuel pressure regulator and 39 with the hose unplugged.
Checked the pressure and it's running about 28 normally and 34 with out vacuum tube.
Old 10-28-2013, 06:44 AM
  #11  
::CF Moderator::
 
cruiser54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Prescott, Az
Posts: 43,864
Received 1,524 Likes on 1,236 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Weak fuel pump or MAYBE clogged up fuel filter.

Could also be that the rubber hose inside the fuel tank that connects to the pump is split.

If you do decide to replace the pump, do not use Airtex brand.
Old 10-28-2013, 08:29 AM
  #12  
Newbie
 
jeepguyperson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Is it fuel injected
Old 10-28-2013, 08:39 AM
  #13  
::CF Moderator::
 
cruiser54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Prescott, Az
Posts: 43,864
Received 1,524 Likes on 1,236 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by jeepguyperson
Is it fuel injected

Uh, yeah. NbT?
Old 10-28-2013, 08:52 AM
  #14  
Newbie
 
jeepguyperson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Check the throttle position sensor I had the same problems and I changed the tps and it fixed everything
Old 10-28-2013, 08:54 AM
  #15  
::CF Moderator::
 
cruiser54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Prescott, Az
Posts: 43,864
Received 1,524 Likes on 1,236 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by jeepguyperson
Check the throttle position sensor I had the same problems and I changed the tps and it fixed everything
His fuel pressure is too low. That needs to be addressed before running down any new rabbit trails.


Quick Reply: 88 Cherokee rough idle & rough acceleration



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:55 AM.