50s Wrangler or Scout Dana 44?
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From: Wyo
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
A buddy with a 50s wrangler told me he'd give me his dana 44 when he builds up his yota axles. I cannot recall if the axles are original to the wrangler or they were scout axles, but I'm wondering if they're worth it. They are a couple inches shorter and of course, I'd have to rework the spring perches and shock mounts. Is this a good upgrade from my dana 35 or should I keep looking?
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From: Soddy Daisy TN
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee
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Wranglers weren't made till 87, it's a CJ. If it is a Scout 44 it's a few inches shorter and has a 5x5.5" bolt pattern, same for the Jeep 44. Depending on what year it is it could be a course spline or 2 piece shafts (both came in early Jeeps and IH). If it has the 2 piece shafts or course spline (19 instead of 30) walk away. If it is a mid 70s or newer you can get some wheel spacer/adapters and it will be an upgrade over any axle you can have even the rare XJ Dana 44. The Jeep and IH versions have larger tubes than the XJ.
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Wranglers weren't made till 87, it's a CJ. If it is a Scout 44 it's a few inches shorter and has a 5x5.5" bolt pattern, same for the Jeep 44. Depending on what year it is it could be a course spline or 2 piece shafts (both came in early Jeeps and IH). If it has the 2 piece shafts or course spline (19 instead of 30) walk away. If it is a mid 70s or newer you can get some wheel spacer/adapters and it will be an upgrade over any axle you can have even the rare XJ Dana 44. The Jeep and IH versions have larger tubes than the XJ.
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From: Soddy Daisy TN
Year: 97
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Look at the hubs. If it has a solid hub it will be 1 piece shafts and more than likely 30 spline. If it has a nut on the hub, often with a cover over it, it has the junk 2 piece shafts and prob 19 spline, walk away. If it's in a 50s model Jeep there is a good change it will be offset to the passenger side which won't work for you anyway. IH will be centered but have the 2 piece shaft up to the mid 70s. 46 to 49 CJs had a Dana 41 with 10 spline, 50 to 70ish is 19 spline. Stay away from those. 70 and up have 30 spline and are a pretty good axle but like I stated earlier it's narrower and a larger bolt pattern. In 76 they swapped to a AMC 20 which also has 2 piece shafts but if swapped out to 1 piece are way strong.
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Wranglers weren't made till 87, it's a CJ. If it is a Scout 44 it's a few inches shorter and has a 5x5.5" bolt pattern, same for the Jeep 44. Depending on what year it is it could be a course spline or 2 piece shafts (both came in early Jeeps and IH). If it has the 2 piece shafts or course spline (19 instead of 30) walk away. If it is a mid 70s or newer you can get some wheel spacer/adapters and it will be an upgrade over any axle you can have even the rare XJ Dana 44. The Jeep and IH versions have larger tubes than the XJ.
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Year: 1990
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Engine: 4.0 lt. 242 cu.in.
Wranglers weren't made till 87, it's a CJ. If it is a Scout 44 it's a few inches shorter and has a 5x5.5" bolt pattern, same for the Jeep 44. Depending on what year it is it could be a course spline or 2 piece shafts (both came in early Jeeps and IH). If it has the 2 piece shafts or course spline (19 instead of 30) walk away. If it is a mid 70s or newer you can get some wheel spacer/adapters and it will be an upgrade over any axle you can have even the rare XJ Dana 44. The Jeep and IH versions have larger tubes than the XJ.
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From: Soddy Daisy TN
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No. No factory 44 made is stronger than a 60. Some of the aftermarket ones are up there but a full float 60 will always be stronger than a semi float 44. Also I think he was referring to the 1960s not a Dana 60. From what I found the 44 had 19 spline and the 41 had 10 spline in the early versions.
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Year: 1990
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Engine: 4.0 lt. 242 cu.in.
No. No factory 44 made is stronger than a 60. Some of the aftermarket ones are up there but a full float 60 will always be stronger than a semi float 44. Also I think he was referring to the 1960s not a Dana 60. From what I found the 44 had 19 spline and the 41 had 10 spline in the early versions.
"If it is a mid 70s or newer you can get some wheel spacer/adapters and it will be an upgrade over any axle you can have even the rare XJ Dana 44."
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