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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 08:20 AM
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How do i mount a 4 point harness on stock seats
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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 12:44 PM
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I want to do the same did u figure out how to do it yet
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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 01:55 PM
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Don't - it's very dangerous.

The shoulder straps attach to the belt. In an accident the straps pull the lap belt up into your belly, giving you massive internal injuries - in even a small crash.
You have to use a sub belt to keep it down around your hips - 5 points. it's a real PITA, so you'll cheat.

The 3 point stock belt is much safer than the 4 point - the lap belt stays put - the FEDS researched them all extensively.

5 or 6 point belts are the safest of all -- but too much trouble to use all the time

The makers of the 4 point belts don't tell you this - talk to a paramedic with racing experience!

The purpose of the sub belt is not to crush your *****, nor is it to keep you from sliding under - it's keeps the lap belt around your hips - bones that can take a lot of impact.

Some folks run the shoulder belts over or through the seat back down to the floor - VERY DANGEROUS TOO.
In accident the shoulder harness pulls your spine down, crushing it.
It must attach behind you at shoulder level so it pulls straight back - requiring a bar running right behind the seat back. Also a PITA.

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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 03:16 PM
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Before you go through the headache of trying to install them you need to check what your local laws say about them. I do know that some places it is illegal to use them on public streets and highways.
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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rrich
Don't - it's very dangerous.

The shoulder straps attach to the belt. In an accident the straps pull the lap belt up into your belly, giving you massive internal injuries - in even a small crash.
You have to use a sub belt to keep it down around your hips - 5 points. it's a real PITA, so you'll cheat.

The 3 point stock belt is much safer than the 4 point - the lap belt stays put - the FEDS researched them all extensively.

5 or 6 point belts are the safest of all -- but too much trouble to use all the time

The makers of the 4 point belts don't tell you this - talk to a paramedic with racing experience!

The purpose of the sub belt is not to crush your *****, nor is it to keep you from sliding under - it's keeps the lap belt around your hips - bones that can take a lot of impact.

Some folks run the shoulder belts over or through the seat back down to the floor - VERY DANGEROUS TOO.
In accident the shoulder harness pulls your spine down, crushing it.
It must attach behind you at shoulder level so it pulls straight back - requiring a bar running right behind the seat back. Also a PITA.
Everything this guy said.
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 10:11 PM
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Thank you so much
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Old Jun 16, 2014 | 10:23 PM
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Default How do I select a harness?

What should I look for in a harness?

Assuming I use a 5 point harness for the reasons listed above, Im still at a loss as to size of webbing, layout of connections, etc. There are a lot of different options out there, and I had to wonder if some were more decorative than safe.

This is strictly for off road, trail use, with speeds no greater than 35mph (and thats pushing it)

I weigh about 300lbs

I am currently using stock seats, but have some aftermarket seats I might put in later.

I will be installing a roll cage and a bar across the back to attach the harness. I would like to get the harness ahead of time to lay out the cage.

2" webbing? 3" webbing? Everything connect down at the waist? I didnt realize that there were so many options and so little information.
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 08:08 AM
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4 point harness NEVER only a 5 at the least then you must have a seat designed for them to work properly. 99% the shoulder harness is meant to be mounted to the roll bar for proper pull angle. In a stock floor pan car there several ways the XJ's will need a different mount.

They will need a 3/16" plate at the least 6x6" at what ever angle they need to be cut. Then bolt to those for the other 3 mounts.

Harness's are only good for so long and the date is on them so be aware if buying them used. There are a lot of outdated ones being sold to people who don't know this till they get them.
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 08:15 AM
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3" belt at minimum. And you definitely want as much padding on the shoulder straps as you can find.

You also want the traditional style buckle. Not some button clasp crap.

I use these:

http://www.amazon.com/RaceQuip-71100.../dp/B004QMJB80

You can buy shoulder pads separately.
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