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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 02:40 PM
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Do you have any idea what year the engine is? From my research the 4.0 didn't have a knock sensor since Renix. This is for a 95.

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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 02:41 PM
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no i did not but have checked everything else on this motor and it's fine i dont think the problem is mechanicle
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 02:42 PM
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Could this be a case of detonation?? (Sounds like a knock but it isnt)
Can you determine which cylinder is having this problem??
If it didnt have one (knock sensor) then you dont need one..
and this only happens every so often, right?

I dont think its a knock sensor thats causing the knock, you might have to look in another direction?
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 02:42 PM
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yes the motor is a 96 out of a GC i beleave
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 98jeepsrt6
Could this be a case of detonation?? (Sounds like a knock but it isnt)
Can you determine which cylinder is having this problem??
If it didnt have one (knock sensor) then you dont need one..
and this only happens every so often, right?

I dont think its a knock sensor thats causing the knock, you might have to look in another direction?
Yes
what would you suggest it is
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TheJerm
The computer that controlled the renix motor needed the knock sensor, the HO ECU doesnt. The actual motor doesnt care as long as the timing is advanced as needed
This is correct. You do not need the knock sensor hooked up to the ecu. Leave it in the block just as a plug and cut the wires off.
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by giwill
yeah i know but the non H.O motor that i have in it does not have a knock sensor or a plug for it
I'm sure there is a threaded hole for a knock sensor on the driver side of the block. But you dont need it with the 95 ecu
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 03:10 PM
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actually, i think it's just a threaded closed hole used for vibration pickup. Leave that sucker off!
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 03:13 PM
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I would guess it may a fuel delivery problem.. timing of injector pulse, could be a sensor for timing as well.

Lean conditions can cause knocking.. Im not a pro at this but i just going by what ive read and own experience with detonation. I had to much air without enough fuel causing the knock and eventually threw a rod..

google detonation and it should give you a better understanding.. sorry im not a ..lol
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 03:14 PM
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Did you swap the flexplate/flywheel from the HO motor.. They are different Renix vs HO..
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 03:24 PM
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will i dont have a connection for the sensor or the sensor it self and how i can tell that it the knock sensor is because i have a lot of carbon build up on my spark plugs
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 03:31 PM
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you used all the sensors of the xj motor on the gran cherokee motor correct
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by freegdr
did you here the motor run b4 you bought it
did you
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 03:45 PM
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the 95 4.0 has 220 hp from the factory the 96 has 225 this might have been accomplished by different internal timing ? the 95 ecm might mot be the same as the 96 ecm ?
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 03:49 PM
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they also call for different cam shaft different valve timing maybe?
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