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2000 trans fluid/flywheel cunundrum

Old Jul 11, 2015 | 09:29 AM
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For the past hour I've been looking around at what fluid I need for my AW4. I've ended up 50/50 with dexIII and ATF+4. I recently filled my trans with ATF +4 after a rebuilt Motor install. I have almost exactly 1000 miles on the new motor and I am assuming the flywheel is loose at the crank. (Because I tightened the TC side) because there is a clunking noise at initial turn over and shut off. And a random smaller clunk at idle, in park. There aren't any clunks with a load on it I.e, while driving, stopped in gear, or moving from a stop. Questioning the fluid comes from wondering if that could be my issue, and not the flywheel? I'm just going through options and thoughts before I drop my trans to tighten my flywheel (with loctite this time) Thanks for the input.

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Old Jul 11, 2015 | 10:28 AM
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ONLY Dex/Merc fluid.

Did you use LocTite on the four bolts from torque converter to flexplate?
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ONLY Dex/Merc fluid. Did you use LocTite on the four bolts from torque converter to flexplate?
Thanks, and no, that's my plan. I could not get a torque wrench in there at the time either, but I'll loctite them this time. I went torque spec on the crank side, but apparently they still need loctite too.

Do you think it's flywheel then? Could the wrong fluid make such a noise?
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Old Jul 11, 2015 | 10:35 AM
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Don't need a torque wrench. About a 9" long 15mm box end wrench. How did you keep the engine from rotating while tightening the bolts?

See if they're loose and go from there. I doubt the fluid is causing the noise.
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Old Jul 11, 2015 | 10:40 AM
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I had a 15mm socket on the "upper" bolt and held it from spinning with a box 15mm on the "lower" bolt. Just kept rotating around. Kinda hard because the rotation defeats the whole purpose. i got them pretty tight, just didn't loctite them. I wish I could fit my flywheel wrench in there.
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Originally Posted by JamDeeper
I had a 15mm socket on the "upper" bolt and held it from spinning with a box 15mm on the "lower" bolt. Just kept rotating around. Kinda hard because the rotation defeats the whole purpose. i got them pretty tight, just didn't loctite them. I wish I could fit my flywheel wrench in there.
se a 3/4 socket on the crank in front with a long breaker bar. Hold the crank from moving with my leg against the bar while tightening the bolts.
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Old Jul 11, 2015 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
se a 3/4 socket on the crank in front with a long breaker bar. Hold the crank from moving with my leg against the bar while tightening the bolts.
10-4. Loctite suggestions?
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Old Jul 11, 2015 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JamDeeper
10-4. Loctite suggestions?
No need to go overboard. They have so many different ones now. Just medium strength.
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Check the flex plate for cracks.
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Old Jul 11, 2015 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo X_J
Check the flex plate for cracks.
indeed. I have that in mind too. Luckily I have an extra from the block I bought for the rebuild.
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Might as well reply to tell that my issue was fixed. I took out the flywheel and reinstalled with loctite. 1000 miles so far with no rattle.
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I'm going to bring this thread back up for the trans fluid. I posted another thread about my lifter collapsing at 3000 miles on a brand new motor. But at the time the lifter collapsed, I was having the trans slip on me going 60-65 mph.

May I ask why Dex/merc? I threw a code for a speed sensor when it slipped and want to be sure my fluid isn't causing the slippage. At the stop light. I was putting from the lifter failure, but I re read the codes and the speed sensor code went away.

All hell broke loose last weekend. And now I'm fixin to replace lifters- already. While I'm at it I was going to put a new speed sensor on the trans.
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Originally Posted by JamDeeper
May I ask why Dex/merc?
Because these transmissions have hydraulic issues when the wrong spec fluid is used.
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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbo X_J
Because these transmissions have hydraulic issues when the wrong spec fluid is used.
The only reason I ask, is because 2k miles after changing from atf+4 to Dex merc. It slips. Canyon driving 60-65 with stretches of 8% grade.
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Originally Posted by JamDeeper
The only reason I ask, is because 2k miles after changing from atf+4 to Dex merc. It slips. Canyon driving 60-65 with stretches of 8% grade.
Driving Utah canyons on stock gears and 33"s? Do you have an auxillary cooler?
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