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Old Nov 22, 2014 | 10:33 PM
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Old Nov 22, 2014 | 10:40 PM
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 12:44 AM
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You will see a 195* thermostat start to open at about that temperature. That is 17* before the boiling point at sea level.

The water is still clear at that point. Having it eventually reach a roiling boil is not necessary. As I said earlier, you cannot cause water to heat past its boiling point no matter how much heat you apply to it.
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy 8s
It doesn't need to be a fast boil, but even a fast boil won't hurt it.

You can

use a pair of these to handle the stat in the boiling water.
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That is a yahoo link you blockhead. These are the turbines I used to work on... (No block on them...)
Wow! Name calling sounds like desperation on your part. Hope I didn't upset u......my bad.

I did't think we ever discussed "handling" a stat in boiling water......rather how u determine the "open" temp in boiling water. Will tongs determine the "open" temp.

I believe I post several posts earlier that one could determine the stat's open temp, how smooth the stat opened/closed and it's useful full open position without ever boiling water.

Also, I've never said boiling water would damage, hurt, harm in anyway, the stat......u, and others, have said that numerous times.

Turbine engines don't have some form of a central casting/forging (block) that all those components bolt to????
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by djb383

Turbine engines don't have some form of a central casting/forging (block) that all those components bolt to????
No. The have a shaft/axle and a housing.

In some circles, being called a blockhead can be quite the compliment. Like those who work on engine blocks all the time...

You are a bit sensitive, aren't you DJB?
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 07:48 PM
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Now be truthful.......u were paying me a complement........yah, right.
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 07:49 PM
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Blockhead is as blockhead does... Lighten up dude...
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy 8s
.......the 4.0 commonly operates at 210' as verified by pretty much everybody who owns one. The thermostat does not regulate this, it merely keeps the coolant inside the block until it is up to operating temperature. This helps the engine get up to temp faster......
Does the 4.0 commonly operate at 210 (actual verified coolant temp) or is it verified by pretty much everybody who owns one that the 4.0 commonly operates with the dash gauge needle simply pointing to +/- the middle of the gauge? Which way is it? Would actual coolant temp be 210 when running the heater in cool/cold weather, and knowing that a 195 stat is essentially wide open at 210? U do agree that a wide open stat is doing nothing, don't u? U do agree that the factory dash temp gauge is simply an indicator with known inaccuracy, don't u?

Please elaborate on what it is that the t-stat "does not regulate"? The fact is, coolant is flowing the moment the motor starts so how does the stat "keep the coolant inside the block"?

Again, the XJ t-stat is not located in the block....it's not located in the long block.... it's located in the HEAD. If u want to help others, as u say, use the correct terminology. I mean, u did admit u were wrong about the stat being 190*, so maybe u could be wrong elsewhere as well. Man up, Dude.
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 09:16 PM
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You don't know what the thermostat is even there for, do you? It's whole entire purpose is to block coolant flow inthe engine block until the coolant in the engine block is hot enough to open the thermostat. When the thermostat opens, coolant is able to flow through the block. When it is closed, coolant does not flow through the block.

The purpose is to get the engine up to temp as quickly as possible.

I am going to start a census thread to ask folks what temp their 4.0s run at, so that you might come to understand your Jeep better.
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 09:25 PM
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https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/99-...erature-14995/
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 12:14 AM
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Coolant flows through the block, head and heater core any time the water pump is turning. The thermostat only blocks flow through the radiator.

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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 01:30 AM
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Yep. That's what the bypass hose is for.
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 08:27 AM
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The thermostat regulates engine outlet temperature (to the radiator)
Coolant flows through the heater system at all times, regardless if the thermostat is open or closed. It also circulates from the head back to the block via this bypass at all times.

I am running a 195* thermostat.
When the engine is warmed up, and I'm driving in stop/go traffic in town, it runs around 205-210*.
When I'm on the highway, and it's cold outside, it runs somewhere around 175-180* (I'm sure once the coolant that circulates back toward the front of the engine heats back up to around 195-200* by the time it reaches the thermostat again) Probably why Jeep put the engine coolant temp sensor in the thermostat housing.
When I'm wheeling a trail, and crawling up a mountain, it runs somewhere around 225-230*
I don't worry at all at that temp because it never gets up near the red zone, and always comes back down once the electric fan has been on for a little while.

One thing that I'm confused about.
In the other thread that Crazy 8 posted. The OP mentions something about "all 99 are Reverse"
I'm not quite sure what that poster was referring to?
As far as I know, all 4.0 engines are cooled the same, minus the difference between the Renix, and HO overflow systems of course..........

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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy 8s
You don't know what the thermostat is even there for, do you? It's whole entire purpose is to block coolant flow inthe engine block until the coolant in the engine block is hot enough to open the thermostat. When the thermostat opens, coolant is able to flow through the block. When it is closed, coolant does not flow through the block.

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Absolutely wrong.......coolant flow thru the block and head is never blocked by the stat.....coolant flows thru the motor the moment it is started.
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 11:57 PM
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Quote: "Coolant flows through the heater system at all times, regardless if the thermostat is open or closed""

Unless it is blocked from the heater core by a water control valve.
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