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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 01:23 PM
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I totally agree, no one beats their prices, and no one beats their customer service. There stuff may not ride like cadilac but I would have bought something else if I really cared terribly about ride comfort. RC stuff performs offroad...nuff said. Just wish the leafs were long enough to provide some articulation.
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 01:47 PM
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Here is my shackles at the moment i am not sure how to correct it unless i buy more parts.



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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 02:16 PM
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Here is one suggestion to that would improve the lift kits it may raise the price a hair but would be well worth it for xj customers.

New bolts for leafs and control arms. Most are not worth a damn once we remove them from the vehicle. It is stupidly hard to find the right size bolts also to replace the factory ones. Diameter ofcourse so you go a hair smaller cause thats all you find at home depot or auto zone. Then the smaller bolt proceeds to wear out bushings fast.
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by XJ Stryker
Here is one suggestion to that would improve the lift kits it may raise the price a hair but would be well worth it for xj customers.

New bolts for leafs and control arms. Most are not worth a damn once we remove them from the vehicle. It is stupidly hard to find the right size bolts also to replace the factory ones. Diameter ofcourse so you go a hair smaller cause thats all you find at home depot or auto zone. Then the smaller bolt proceeds to wear out bushings fast.
I'll second that! But will say that I have had x flex short arms and I haven't lost a bushing to date!!! (About 10-12 mo)
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 02:51 PM
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Like many have mentioned, RC has one of the best customer service... bar none.
They have some issue with their previous flex joints and after numerous complains, they listen and replaced it with new joints.
Now lets hope they listen and make some changes.
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Here are some parts i have purchased from Rough Country...
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 03:30 PM
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I own a RC long arm 6.5. I would have to agree on the rear spring issue. Another issue that i have seen with this lift and my old 4.5 lift that was in my old jeep is that one side seams to sag before the other and gives the jeep a pimp lean. I love RC products and their customer service but im very disapointed with the rear spings. Also they should offer a taller spring pack instead of 4.5 for both 4.5 &6.5 lifts.

But none the less i prefer RC 100% over Rustys
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by denim_xj
I own a RC long arm 6.5. I would have to agree on the rear spring issue. Another issue that i have seen with this lift and my old 4.5 lift that was in my old jeep is that one side seams to sag before the other and gives the jeep a pimp lean. I love RC products and their customer service but im very disapointed with the rear spings. Also they should offer a taller spring pack instead of 4.5 for both 4.5 &6.5 lifts.

But none the less i prefer RC 100% over Rustys
The pimp lean is due to our xjs, and the way the power is transfered to the tires...
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 04:40 PM
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O! O! I got one! Have one coil slightly longer to make up for the pass side, I think its a 10mm difference lol but its an idea
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 04:44 PM
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My front coils lean too. One side is a whole inch below the other side. Extremely noticeable.
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 04:49 PM
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Articxj:
"Just about all XJ's, over time, will lean to the pass. side. The engine torque when accelerating from a standstill tweaks the suspension to the passenger side and loads the right rear spring. It does this over, and over, and over, and over again every single time you apply the throttle. Of course its a minute amount while the jeep is already in motion, i.e. carrying inertia. But stop and go traffic, and slipping the clutch when you have a manual, or power braking with an auto will cause the most significant fatigue of that spring. If youve ever been out to the dragstrip, and watched the old leaf sprung, live axle muscle cars pull off the line, they normally squat down to one side, and pull the adjacent front corner higher than the rest of the car."
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jeepsurfer1
Articxj:
"Just about all XJ's, over time, will lean to the pass. side. The engine torque when accelerating from a standstill tweaks the suspension to the passenger side and loads the right rear spring. It does this over, and over, and over, and over again every single time you apply the throttle. Of course its a minute amount while the jeep is already in motion, i.e. carrying inertia. But stop and go traffic, and slipping the clutch when you have a manual, or power braking with an auto will cause the most significant fatigue of that spring. If youve ever been out to the dragstrip, and watched the old leaf sprung, live axle muscle cars pull off the line, they normally squat down to one side, and pull the adjacent front corner higher than the rest of the car."
I understand but why do these springs lean an inch to one side when they are only like a year old and my stock springs that were 14 years old didn't lean at all.
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Nperryman

I understand but why do these springs lean an inch to one side when they are only like a year old and my stock springs that were 14 years old didn't lean at all.
I'm no expert on springs so take what I am about to say with a grain of salt, I think they lean do to the motor pulling and pushing over the years, blocks and longer shackles make it worse due to more flexing in the rear. Over time they should even out now the front i not sure about... So... Yep...
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 08:30 PM
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Ive got some second hand springs and shocks... shocks are pretty stiff but i like them... are they valved for heavier jeeps with like winch bumpers sliders etc? i put up a rough country sticker on the door at work and have had a lot of compliments and what not
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 94XjSport94
Ive got some second hand springs and shocks... shocks are pretty stiff but i like them... are they valved for heavier jeeps with like winch bumpers sliders etc? i put up a rough country sticker on the door at work and have had a lot of compliments and what not
I imagine the shocks are valved stiffer. Once I put a bunch of metal on the jeep in the form of sliders/bumper/etc, it rides pretty damn good now. I wouldn't change the valving any. If anything, offer another shock with different valving for the stock cherokee weight, although I dont know how popular that would be.
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 09:21 PM
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I almost have enough money to buy a 3" lift for my 88. I want to replace the leafs too but after reading everyones thread I am a little worried. Does anyone think that if I also bought new shackels and a new bolt that it would help the problem? Rockauto sells the bolts for $5.00. Thanks fr any feed back!
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