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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by liquidironind
The bolt in kits add less than 1/2" of lift depending on your spring length. We offer the weld in kit for the guys looking to use these in a custom application or wanting to add lift to their XJs. It's not as easy to install as our bolt in system but that's part of the game.

Typically I suggest a zero rate spring or a small block if someone wants an extra inch. We run a 1" block in the rear of the LII XJ with our prototype traction bar system and have no issues.
There you go...you want lift? Run them blocked.
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 09:01 AM
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Id rather pay to have some custom made than run blocks. That's why I asked.
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Nickell586
Id rather pay to have some custom made than run blocks. That's why I asked.
Really...I see no reason why the sliders couldn't be made taller and just run the slider track near the bottom. That way the lift could be attained without compromising the functionality of the slider.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 12:43 PM
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I know you said a couple months ago that you were working on leaf packs to go with the sliders. The sliders have always been on my must have list and now I need new packs so was wondering if you had a package deal? Thanks
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by digger21
I know you said a couple months ago that you were working on leaf packs to go with the sliders. The sliders have always been on my must have list and now I need new packs so was wondering if you had a package deal? Thanks
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Interested in this as well
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 10:30 PM
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I'd really like some feedback from someone who dd's their jeep with these sliders and how they ride/hold up on the hwy. I do some occasional wheeling as well as some light towing. I know these work well wheeling, but what about towing?
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Parhamm1
I'd really like some feedback from someone who dd's their jeep with these sliders and how they ride/hold up on the hwy. I do some occasional wheeling as well as some light towing. I know these work well wheeling, but what about towing?
X's for the DD review. I would imagine they would fail miserably at towing, but that's just a guess. I would think they would slide to their Max and make the rear squat towing.
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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by XJeepWerks
X's for the DD review. I would imagine they would fail miserably at towing, but that's just a guess. I would think they would slide to their Max and make the rear squat towing.
Why would these be any different for towing? The slider doesn't move with the angle of the vehicle...it moves with the articulation of the spring (whether or not the vehicle is bouncing up and down). I also see no reason why these would make highway driving any different. They don't really change anything aside from spring travel.
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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Bugsy

Why would these be any different for towing? The slider doesn't move with the angle of the vehicle...it moves with the articulation of the spring (whether or not the vehicle is bouncing up and down). I also see no reason why these would make highway driving any different. They don't really change anything aside from spring travel.
The only reason I would think they would effect towing is because all of the tongue weight of your trailer is on the rear of the vehicle. That usually causes the rear of your vehicle to squat because the suspension compresses with the added weight. These sliders are designed to slide before the springs compress...that would cause the rear to squat easier than if it were a shackle mounted spring. I'm not an engineer or physicist but I have a pretty good understanding of both fields. We can let somebody with experience confirm either theory though.
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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 03:59 PM
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Squat (suspension movement) is not a function of the sliders, it’s a function of the vertical LOAD the springs see.

If the rear suspension is loaded (with a trailer, or a spare tire) the springs compress.

They will compress the same amount whether they are located by a slider, or by a shackle.

I have these sliders installed on my XJ, and after a few thousand miles of highway driving to and from the trails, I can assure you they are VERY stable.

I routinely drive routes 80 and 81 on the way to Rausch; the wind is almost always tearing across 81 and the jeep is rock solid at 70 MPH.

One finger on the wheel at 70 mph.

EDIT:

This past Saturday I delivered a Front Dana 60 in the XJ.

My speedometer is a bit off , but I calculated I was doing ~73 MPH (2200 RPM - 4.10 gears, 35" tires, .75 OD)

I estimate the axle was about 500 pounds, and as you can see, the jeep was squatting a bit. I need to upgrade the leaf springs to match my one ton axles!
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 12:01 AM
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Welp.. I'm sold. Lol. I may be an easy sell with these but I have some faith. I'll give some direct feedback regarding towing with them.
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 04:02 PM
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Any chance of a sale or discount soon...?
Cause I want some
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 11:37 AM
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I ran the sliders on my my DD at 6.5" LA with 37s, fullwidths & no sway bar. I was able to run 75-80 mph down the highway with no issues. changing lanes was a breeze. they dont give you the floating feel that shackles do. i definitely recommend these to anyone who wants a stable rig.
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 12:09 PM
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very nice looking stuff here
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 04:23 PM
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How much lift will the sliders give? I read it's only an inch but is that true?
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