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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 02:27 PM
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That nylon block looks like its pushing into the channel...

Does that affect the functionality of the slider at all, or is that what its supposed to be doing?
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by PUNISHER
I have a question and it might sound dumb, but what about lift shackles? With the sliders and shackles would it "slide back" and cause the rear to sag and the XJ sit unlevel? Just curious and it probably doesn't affect a dang thing, but I wanted to ask because I want a set..
Idk if I'm just reading you wrong. But you do not use shackles with this slider.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 03:40 PM
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Which kinda sucks. You can't gain any lift with shakles, so you have to use 100% spring lift, or build some into the slider box.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 03:57 PM
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LII has been around a while.. I have been eyeing his Shackle relocation brackets.

There is also a build on Pirate where these were used in a front leaf spring build.. Totally Pimp
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jeep bandit
Idk if I'm just reading you wrong. But you do not use shackles with this slider.
Nope, you didn't read me wrong. You answered my question correctly. No shackles, you can use sliders,with shackles, you can't. Thanks for the answer..I was looking at the pictures and didn't see schakles so that is why I wanted to ask before I bought a set.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 04:51 PM
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I never thought about that. That means I can't upgrade to 8" with just a set of shackles =(
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PUNISHER
I have a question and it might sound dumb, but what about lift shackles? With the sliders and shackles would it "slide back" and cause the rear to sag and the XJ sit unlevel? Just curious and it probably doesn't affect a dang thing, but I wanted to ask because I want a set..
Sorry guy another busy day in the shop. The whole purpose of this slider box is to remove the unstable shackle, with a more stable way of mounting the spring. with a shackle you have two rubber bushings and the amount of movement at the top of the shackle equates to more movement at the spring end of the shackle. One of the main purposes is to make the rear suspensions more stable without a shackle. This is a question that has been asked numerous times no worries.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Kopecki
I never thought about that. That means I can't upgrade to 8" with just a set of shackles =(
Again, you could build the lift into the box if you really need to, depending on how much larger of a shakle you needed.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bugsy
That nylon block looks like its pushing into the channel...

Does that affect the functionality of the slider at all, or is that what its supposed to be doing?
DUH! nm...it helps if you pay attention and look closer at the rigging. I never noticed the track above and below the channel.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 10:55 PM
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Any idea of how much more down travel these provide on a 4.5 inch lift as compared to regular extended shackles or other brand relocation brackets? I'd like to see some more rear droop pics on some less "full buggy" Cherokee's.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Lyon
Any idea of how much more down travel these provide on a 4.5 inch lift as compared to regular extended shackles or other brand relocation brackets? I'd like to see some more rear droop pics on some less "full buggy" Cherokee's.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 01:56 PM
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if you use the front frame stiffeners, does that mean you dont need the bumper brackets to tie in to the frame when installing aftermarket bumper? or would you need both?
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by wildcat
if you use the front frame stiffeners, does that mean you dont need the bumper brackets to tie in to the frame when installing aftermarket bumper? or would you need both?
You will always need bumper tie ins for an aftermarket bumper. The frame stiffeners keep you from bending your frame during hard wheeling. I wish I would have invested in frame stiffeners a long time ago. I thought I didn't need them because I would never wheel hard enough to bend the frame. Well I was wrong and I've now got a small bend in my frame that makes my Jeep not sit level, among other problems. Learn from others mistakes. =)
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan Fredrickson
This may seem strange, my posting in a competitors thread but I respect and like Tim and his products are very well thought out and innovative. Tim may have only been selling to the public for a few years but he has been around for a good while and certainly knows what it takes to make something the right way.

From the business standpoint I welcome someone like Tim & Liquid Iron Industries because he pushes the envelope and makes all of us work harder to do better. So don't worry, this is a good product and one I wish I had made first

you just made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan Fredrickson
This may seem strange, my posting in a competitors thread but I respect and like Tim and his products are very well thought out and innovative. Tim may have only been selling to the public for a few years but he has been around for a good while and certainly knows what it takes to make something the right way.

From the business standpoint I welcome someone like Tim & Liquid Iron Industries because he pushes the envelope and makes all of us work harder to do better. So don't worry, this is a good product and one I wish I had made first
Totally missed this.

Thanks Dan! I really appreciate it. I wouldn't call us competitors, more like challengers.

Dan has told me many times that he kicks himself for not developing some of my products first. There's a certain amount of respect to be said for someone who doesn't take your product and run with it. This feeling is mutual between us and always will be.

I look forward to pushing the envelope even more. We are developing some really cool stuff right now. I don't like making the same thing everyone else does, I don't care how much easy money is in it.
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