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Old Mar 14, 2022 | 10:22 AM
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Default Trading 98xj for 84 wagoner need advice TODAY ASAP

​​​​​​Please can someone give me things to look for to get it started so I can see how it runs and any other advice .

Yesterday I accidentally came across a 1984 wagoner with a plow for 2,000 . Mmmm I just did a quick search and looks like average sale of these are 30k?

Would this be a good investment as a restoration project?
possible resale value

Ok so I'm selling my 1998 xj 4x4 sport I got for $850 🤞
it's beautiful 192 k no rust anywhere except surface on driver door , easy fix ..power windows have mind of there own, needs tires, NSS suddenly tripped il pull it out clean it reset PC, no biggie. .. that's it.

So I need some expert Advice immediately because it's probably gonna be sold tomorrow and I'm going out this afternoon to look at it.
They said they got it to plow and it runs great no tranny slips, unibody sold. But it suddenly now won't start claiming no spark and they changed coil and distributor.

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Old Mar 14, 2022 | 10:43 AM
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Motor no run.... bring a compression tester, spark plug wrench and battery so you can run a compression test. The old cherokees do not have a unibody.

A good deal of roof rust, so check it carefully for rust thru. check rest of vehicle carefully for rust.
I beleive these babies have V8s, strong motors. but I might be wrong.

price seems fair for a truck that wont start if the rest of it is ok. the snow plow is of limited resale value if your intent is to flip it. seeing as winter is about done, you may have to wait till next winter to get best price.

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Old Mar 14, 2022 | 11:09 AM
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Why are you selling your XJ so cheap? If it's under 200K and has zero rust, I would think you could get more for it.
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Old Mar 14, 2022 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Old Man Minimalist
Why are you selling your XJ so cheap? If it's under 200K and has zero rust, I would think you could get more for it.
Oh no I was trying to fix the Minot issues to get max dollor for it I planned on selling it for 3-5k

Looking into the resale of this 84 though is like between 16-60k average.
I love doing this stuff and I'd enjoy working on this 84 throughout the summer. Trying to do as much research in the the 2 hours before I go look at it but I gotta get it started so I know what's going on if anything with engine I'm not taking his word for it. But even if I do a quick paint job on it I almost positive I can make more money then I could with the 98
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Old Mar 14, 2022 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Justine96xj
Oh no I was trying to fix the Minot issues to get max dollor for it I planned on selling it for 3-5k

Looking into the resale of this 84 though is like between 16-60k average.
I love doing this stuff and I'd enjoy working on this 84 throughout the summer. Trying to do as much research in the the 2 hours before I go look at it but I gotta get it started so I know what's going on if anything with engine I'm not taking his word for it. But even if I do a quick paint job on it I almost positive I can make more money then I could with the 98
Thoughts?
Ah, I see now. I can't help on the '84. I really don't know anything about them. But making money on cars has not worked out for me, so I'm the wrong person to ask!
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Old Mar 14, 2022 | 09:13 PM
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As stated the FSJ Wagoneer is a full frame Multipurpose vehicle.
It looks like there is quite a bit of rust on the lower portion of the Waggy, so you need to be able to replace panels on it (lots and lots of welding). Most plow Full Size Jeeps are pretty beat up to begin with.
It also looks like the frame where the gas tank mounts is rusted. Frame patch panels for that are available at BJs Offroad.

The engine in that thing is an AMC 360 2 barrel carbureted V8.
It is a good engine, but I bet it is tired?
One other thing I noticed is the distributor laying in the back of the Jeep.
When you go to look at this Wagoneer, make sure that the distributor gear is not all stripped. AMC V8s do not like the newer chinese timing covers, and will eat the distributor gears. Also if the engine was ever rebuilt, the newer timing gears often don't match up to the oil hole on the cam.
But if the distributor gear is stripped, then that is why it quit working. It also means that there is metal in the engine. (This has happened to me with my AMC 360 in one of my Wagoneers, and lead to an engine rebuild)

The other thing is, if you think you can turn it around for a quick buck think again.
It is not a Grand Wagoneer, and you will have 10s of thousands in to it before you can sell it for that kind of money.
I know I have two old Wagoneer's.

Don't get me wrong I love my Full Sized Wagoneer's, but they need a whole lot of love, do not get good gas mileage, and parts are getting harder to find.
I suggest you go look over at BJsoffroad.com and see what parts you might need? OH! And the cost of them as well.

If you need some answers to questions on Wagoneer's PM me, I know a little bit about them!
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Old Mar 15, 2022 | 02:37 AM
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While a really cool vehicle, I'd be leery of it, plow vehicles are usually pounded on pretty hard, and some of that cancer looks pretty bad. With rust it's what you can't see that you need to be worried about.

Definitely PM Dusty, very knowledgeable with these
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Old Mar 15, 2022 | 08:01 PM
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I'm with Dusty with the reference to the grand wagoneer's or by simple sight - the ones with the woodgrain being more valuable. There is something about the grand waggys and that wood that pulls the collectors and also the Trendy folks in with the $$$$. FSJ trucks hold some good value as well if you come across one of them in "rust free" running and driving condition. I've seen a number of these reg wagoneers though for sale in a fair DD ready condition for the ~$5k price range and they sit, and sit, and sit, and sit. Fixing the rust/body flaws yourself would definitely make it more appealing but you also won't know how bad it is until you start digging in and by then you might bite off more than you bargained for in a project.
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