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Old May 3, 2017 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 5-Speed

BTW - I love my Truck-lites!
Hell yes! Now that I have em, can't imagine running anything else. Best damn lights I've found yet.
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Old May 3, 2017 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TwistedWrench
Hell yes! Now that I have em, can't imagine running anything else. Best damn lights I've found yet.
I know exactly what you mean. Every time I hop in one of my other cars at night, I tell myself "should have taken the Jeep. I cant see anything".
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Old May 3, 2017 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 5-Speed
I know exactly what you mean. Every time I hop in one of my other cars at night, I tell myself "should have taken the Jeep. I cant see anything".
Lol, ya my Ranger is the worst, I'm squinting any time I have to drive that thing at night.
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Old May 3, 2017 | 06:12 PM
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Fighting with me about headlights is like picking an oil fight with Salad. I'd like to see you take your position to somewhere like CandlePowerForums or another venue full of true lighting geeks/experts. You'd be laughed right off of the internet.
Seeing As my life does not revolve around the internet, or impressing someone who's does, in my first reply to this thread I was merely adding my experience with the Hella housings and their versatility which I appreciate. I was not suggesting he put any thing other than halogen bulbs in them, only stating the fact that they will accept multiple types of bulbs. I was not "Fighting" with you, I was rebutting the reply that read like I was being talked to like a child. Theres no need to get your panties in a bunch. The OP asked what were the best headlights for his XJ, In my experience through over a dozen XJ's/MJ's and probably equal amount of headlight setups I have found that the Hella housing are indeed the best and the only ones I have put in more than one vehicle. It's plainly obvious that you disagree, which is fine, thats what makes America a great country. We're free to have our own opinions. If this is how people get treated on this forum for having an opinion different than you, oh great sheriff of headlightville, than I don't need to be a part of it. And for the record In my opinion LED headlights and those god awful 50" light bars are the new undercarriage neons. Cookie cutter "Me Too" stuff. Theres no substitute for a large diameter parabolic reflector with an HID. So in closing, thanks for the warm welcome. I really appreciate this forum showing its true colors right away so I didn't end up wasting time and energy by contributing too much to this community. To the OP I'm sorry this all had to muck up your thread I hope you find the information you were seeking without getting chastised by anyone.

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Old May 3, 2017 | 06:39 PM
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Don't take it so personally man, nugget-busting happens here. People are very opinionated here, that's a good thing. Lot of good folks here.

But suggesting anything illegal in any way will open the floodgates, don't sweat it. I asked if another member had cut out cats, and I got reamed, lol.

It happens.
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Old May 3, 2017 | 07:43 PM
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Agreed. We are all just a messed up bunch of folks here. Why do you think we all love our XJs (and some GCs)? Not just any normal person can do that. But at the same time, dont come in here posting like you know everything. Thats when the riot of forum members hits as you can see. Anyways, if you do stick around, you will learn to like these people. They are full of knowledge and love joking around!
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Old May 3, 2017 | 08:57 PM
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The problem is that it's NOT an opinion. You can't just say we disagree and that we have different opinions when the subject of the debate is something that can be (and has been) demonstrably settled with empirical data.

I don't mean anything as a personal attack, but when you're spreading bad information and especially suggestions that flirt with the line of legal/illegal, I'm not going to sugar coat things especially when I've been on the life-flash-before-eyes receiving end of this particular unsafe and illegal practice (improper headlight configuration). I'm going to be as blunt and to-the-point as I can because I'm not interested in anyone being unclear about what I'm trying to convey.
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Originally Posted by TwistedWrench
Man you might as well ask what oil is best, or who makes the best 5.56 ammo, lol.

Start with the putco harness upgrade, if you still want it brighter, my vote is for Trucklites.
where do you get those so called trucklites you speak of?
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Old May 5, 2017 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by redmuck
where do you get those so called trucklites you speak of?
The ECE Truck-lites are significantly better than the DOT ones--better distribution with fewer hotspots and artifacting. They need to be special ordered. DOT TL's are available from numerous automotive stores online and Amazon and probably a bunch of other places.
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The ECE Truck-lites are significantly better than the DOT ones--better distribution with fewer hotspots and artifacting. They need to be special ordered. DOT TL's are available from numerous automotive stores online and Amazon and probably a bunch of other places.
I didnt even know they had 2 different versions. I have the DOT ones. What is the main difference between them? Different bulbs? Different reflector design? Would it be worth it to switch or its not a huge difference?
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Originally Posted by 5-Speed
I didnt even know they had 2 different versions. I have the DOT ones. What is the main difference between them? Different bulbs? Different reflector design? Would it be worth it to switch or its not a huge difference?
ECE TL's distribution is smoother (fewer hotspots and artifacts) and a little wider iirc. That's the main practical difference; there are other less obvious differences, but they're relatively unimportant. The DOT ones are still quite good. I wouldn't tell you to switch to ECE if you already have the DOT TL's. If you really wanted to, I'm sure you could do so at little cost since you could easily sell your DOT TL's off given the high demand.
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Originally Posted by mschi772
ECE TL's distribution is smoother (fewer hotspots and artifacts) and a little wider iirc. That's the main practical difference; there are other less obvious differences, but they're relatively unimportant. The DOT ones are still quite good. I wouldn't tell you to switch to ECE if you already have the DOT TL's. If you really wanted to, I'm sure you could do so at little cost since you could easily sell your DOT TL's off given the high demand.
Thanks for the info! If you were to say it is a big difference, I would do the swap. But if its just a minor difference with the hot spots and the artifacts (this is the part that drives me crazy right now but...), I can deal with what I have. Thanks for all your lighting knowledge. I might have to go on Candlepower and see how lost I can get.
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Originally Posted by 5-Speed
Thanks for the info! If you were to say it is a big difference, I would do the swap. But if its just a minor difference with the hot spots and the artifacts (this is the part that drives me crazy right now but...), I can deal with what I have. Thanks for all your lighting knowledge. I might have to go on Candlepower and see how lost I can get.
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Old May 7, 2017 | 12:20 AM
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-harness
-H4 housings
-H4 bulbs

I used the Putco harness, which was super easy. I spent the extra coin and bought the Cibie headlight housings which are amazing. Awesome beam pattern. Paired those with some stock wattage Osram bulbs and they've served me well for awhile now.
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