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Beach Bum
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From: Cape Hatteras, North Carolina
Year: 2000 WJ
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
On a 3-joint drive shaft, double cardon is the pivot joint for suspension travel and must be at fixed end of drivetrain (transfer case) to function properly.
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From: California
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Is there a reason why the double cardan joint needs to be on the transfer case side? In theory, could it be attached to the axle's pinion yoke with a standard u-joint at the TC output? Assume all angles are correct in both scenarios and oiling the pinion is not an issue.
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From: Frederick, MD from Cleveland, OH
Year: 1993 YJ Wrangler
Engine: 4.0 I6
If a setup were configured in that manner, the single ujoint would attach to the TC yoke with the driveshaft following the same angle of the TC output. The DC joint would attach to the axle pinion, which would be pointing higher than before, at whatever angle it needs to be in order to make the driveshaft's angle 0° relative to the TC output yoke.
That's why I said to assume the angles are adjusted correctly and the pinion is lubricated. I don't see a reason why it shouldn't work in that manner in theory, at least at low RPM on a bench, but I don't know if it would be an issue in a functional application.
Herp Derp Jerp

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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
That doesn't make sense geometrically. Both sides are at angles relative to each other; nothing can be at "no angle" when you're comparing things.
If a setup were configured in that manner, the single ujoint would attach to the TC yoke with the driveshaft following the same angle of the TC output. The DC joint would attach to the axle pinion, which would be pointing higher than before, at whatever angle it needs to be in order to make the driveshaft's angle 0° relative to the TC output yoke.
That's why I said to assume the angles are adjusted correctly and the pinion is lubricated. I don't see a reason why it shouldn't work in that manner in theory, at least at low RPM on a bench, but I don't know if it would be an issue in a functional application.
If a setup were configured in that manner, the single ujoint would attach to the TC yoke with the driveshaft following the same angle of the TC output. The DC joint would attach to the axle pinion, which would be pointing higher than before, at whatever angle it needs to be in order to make the driveshaft's angle 0° relative to the TC output yoke.
That's why I said to assume the angles are adjusted correctly and the pinion is lubricated. I don't see a reason why it shouldn't work in that manner in theory, at least at low RPM on a bench, but I don't know if it would be an issue in a functional application.
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From: SoCal
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
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From: New York
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L Straight 6
Ok...
Wheels:
https://www.quadratec.com/products/92601_4XX_B_PG.htm
Tires:
http://www.4wheelparts.com/Tires/Goo...iews_Container
First question, will these tires fit on this wheel? and is the backspacing on those wheels enough for a 3 inch lift? I am new to this if you can't tell...
Wheels:
https://www.quadratec.com/products/92601_4XX_B_PG.htm
Tires:
http://www.4wheelparts.com/Tires/Goo...iews_Container
First question, will these tires fit on this wheel? and is the backspacing on those wheels enough for a 3 inch lift? I am new to this if you can't tell...
Herp Derp Jerp

Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 18,251
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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
Ok...
Wheels:
https://www.quadratec.com/products/92601_4XX_B_PG.htm
Tires:
http://www.4wheelparts.com/Tires/Goo...iews_Container
First question, will these tires fit on this wheel? and is the backspacing on those wheels enough for a 3 inch lift? I am new to this if you can't tell...
Wheels:
https://www.quadratec.com/products/92601_4XX_B_PG.htm
Tires:
http://www.4wheelparts.com/Tires/Goo...iews_Container
First question, will these tires fit on this wheel? and is the backspacing on those wheels enough for a 3 inch lift? I am new to this if you can't tell...
No other information is listed at the Quadratec link. See the details of the model here: http://www.cragarwheel.com/wheels/wh...ies-397-soft-8
8" wide with 4.5" backspacing (or thereabouts) is plenty if you don't intend on upgrading in tire size.
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Posts: 205
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From: New York
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L Straight 6
15" tires will fit on 15" rims.
No other information is listed at the Quadratec link. See the details of the model here: http://www.cragarwheel.com/wheels/wh...ies-397-soft-8
8" wide with 4.5" backspacing (or thereabouts) is plenty if you don't intend on upgrading in tire size.
No other information is listed at the Quadratec link. See the details of the model here: http://www.cragarwheel.com/wheels/wh...ies-397-soft-8
8" wide with 4.5" backspacing (or thereabouts) is plenty if you don't intend on upgrading in tire size.
Herp Derp Jerp

Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 18,251
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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
Herp Derp Jerp

Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 18,251
Likes: 17
From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
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From: Frederick, MD from Cleveland, OH
Year: 1993 YJ Wrangler
Engine: 4.0 I6
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From: San Diego
Year: 2006
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 3.0
OK lets see if I can do it. hahaha
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Warrior Products Rear bumper with D-rings
Warrior Products Safari Rack
" Diamond Plate Body Armor
" Steering Box Brace
" Safari Rack Air dam
" Rock Barz
" 3" Suspension Lift Kit
" Leaf Spring Shackle Kit
" Auxiliary Light Tab Brackets
" High Lift Jack Brackets
" Spare Tire Bracket
Warrior Products Link: http://www.warriorproducts.com/catalog.html
Husky Liners Front seats, Second seats, Rear cargo Grey Liners
Husky Liners Link: http://www.huskyliners.com/searchresults.cfm
KC 57 Series All Season Light Kit, 5x7 black plastic system #735 Link:http://www.kchilites.com/store/5x7-B...735-P7C25.aspx
Airaid Intake
Airaid Link: http://www.airaid.com/ProductDetail....ductID=310-136
WP products review: PM me if you have a question on one of them, but for the most part all there products are good quality. There suspension kit has very good manners on the street, an off road test in the near future. I also have pucks in the front which I have no idea who there from. I did not install these items but have checked them out and other then the lift and Rock Barz they seem to be simple. You will need a drill and rivet gun for the body armor. 2 people would help with the Rock Barz but a jack stand can be the other hand.
Husky Liners review: I LOVE THESE THINGS. Just drop them in, they fit perfectly.
KC HiLites review: Dont let the price scare you. They are the best lights I have ever owned or viewed. High quality product. Very good light, with optional lenses. I have used them in the fog and they work awesome! Also work very well for driving lights. Spot on instructions. Took me about 3-4hours to install, but you cant see a wire anywhere. Fairly simple just time consuming.
Airaid Review: Came with the rig, not too loud at idle while out of XJ. Not loud under acceleration. Very good fitment. I'm sure there is a power and mileage gain. Kinda pricey. Very easy install.
WHEW! This may be edited at any time.
Warrior Products Front Rock Crawler Bumper with Brush Guard, and D-rings
Warrior Products Rear bumper with D-rings
Warrior Products Safari Rack
" Diamond Plate Body Armor
" Steering Box Brace
" Safari Rack Air dam
" Rock Barz
" 3" Suspension Lift Kit
" Leaf Spring Shackle Kit
" Auxiliary Light Tab Brackets
" High Lift Jack Brackets
" Spare Tire Bracket
Warrior Products Link: http://www.warriorproducts.com/catalog.html
Husky Liners Front seats, Second seats, Rear cargo Grey Liners
Husky Liners Link: http://www.huskyliners.com/searchresults.cfm
KC 57 Series All Season Light Kit, 5x7 black plastic system #735 Link:http://www.kchilites.com/store/5x7-B...735-P7C25.aspx
Airaid Intake
Airaid Link: http://www.airaid.com/ProductDetail....ductID=310-136
WP products review: PM me if you have a question on one of them, but for the most part all there products are good quality. There suspension kit has very good manners on the street, an off road test in the near future. I also have pucks in the front which I have no idea who there from. I did not install these items but have checked them out and other then the lift and Rock Barz they seem to be simple. You will need a drill and rivet gun for the body armor. 2 people would help with the Rock Barz but a jack stand can be the other hand.
Husky Liners review: I LOVE THESE THINGS. Just drop them in, they fit perfectly.
KC HiLites review: Dont let the price scare you. They are the best lights I have ever owned or viewed. High quality product. Very good light, with optional lenses. I have used them in the fog and they work awesome! Also work very well for driving lights. Spot on instructions. Took me about 3-4hours to install, but you cant see a wire anywhere. Fairly simple just time consuming.
Airaid Review: Came with the rig, not too loud at idle while out of XJ. Not loud under acceleration. Very good fitment. I'm sure there is a power and mileage gain. Kinda pricey. Very easy install.
WHEW! This may be edited at any time.
Nice information.. Thanks for sharing.
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Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 11,169
Likes: 26
From: Northern Kentucky
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Paint to the rescue! What's the problem with the bottom image? Purely as a hypothetical setup, I mean.
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from this article:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ft/index2.html
It would seem to me that you'd NEVER have any vibes during axle wrap, but every time you hit a bump at cruising speed, your u-joint angles would go out of phase and you'd experience driveline vibes.
Does that tickle your funny bone?





