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Old Jan 30, 2017 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Freerider15
To me, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to dump a bunch of money into a stock motor's exhaust, to make it sound "not stock".

It's a 4.0L, not an LQ9.

It's not going to get much in the way of gains even with porting and polishing the head, intake header, etc.

It's not a performance motor, nor will it ever be.
Mine is stroked and cammed and was verified on the engine dyno to make 90 more HP and about 100 lb ft more torque than the stock motor, but whether that qualifies as a "performance motor" is beside the point. I would still consider buying that Gibson exhaust even with a stock motor. Sound is a big part of the visceral driving experience of any vehicle. To me, a vehicle that sounds good is more pleasing to drive. That makes it worth the money to me to feel more connected to the vehicle.

Some people don't want to hear their motors. They want their interiors quiet and dead. They buy cars with whisper quiet mufflers and a hundred pounds of sound deadening in the body panels. And if that's what they want, that's fine. I didn't buy an XJ to feel like I was driving my living room couch around town.

Originally Posted by mschi772
When I wrote that, I was envisioning a scenario where someone wants "sound X" where "sound X" can be had for $100 but instead, either because they buy a product from a more expensive company or buy more stuff than necessary to achieve their goal, they spend $200.
That's why I bought the Gibson. I could have spent a lot less, but it would not have sounded as good. I wasn't trying to make it sound like a V8, and I didn't want it loud. I just wanted the best quality deep sound I could get for the money, and to me the sound of that Gibson is superior enough to the cheaper mufflers to justify the cost.

You can overpay for brand names, but in this case you really do get what you pay for.
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Old Jan 30, 2017 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by extrashaky
Wrong model. Mine's the one on the left, the illegitimate offspring of Toyota and Subaru. The one on the right is the Scion bastard half sister I found parked next to mine when I came out of the store one day. We don't put hipster bumper stickers on our cars, only speed shop stickers that add +25hp.

Ahh, a BRZ! A friend of mine has a blue 2013, he brought it up to my shop last spring and we lowered it and threw on some new brakes. Big 4-piston Wilwood calipers up front, poor guy lost so much of that fancy Motul brake juice on my garage floor lol. I like those cars, they're fun and at least suspension-wise not hard to work on (rear LCAs, shocks, and adjustable struts done in 30 minutes!) Seems to be a community not dissimilar to Jeeps, he brought some good writeups with him lol

Anyway I know that there is a reason your exhaust kit is so damned expensive, can't blame Jeep owners for how simple an XJ is!
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Old Feb 7, 2017 | 05:50 PM
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I have a manga flow muffler. It isn't too loud but isn't the most quiet muffler. But if you look through the hole you can see right through it so it doesn't cause any back pressure. And it sounds really good because it eliminates gross high tones. It's about $60-100? I don't really remember. I had it welded on.
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Old Feb 7, 2017 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by LiamLikeNeeson
I have a manga flow muffler. It isn't too loud but isn't the most quiet muffler. But if you look through the hole you can see right through it so it doesn't cause any back pressure. And it sounds really good because it eliminates gross high tones. It's about $60-100? I don't really remember. I had it welded on.
Manga? Is that a female Mango?
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Old Feb 7, 2017 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Manga? Is that a female Mango?
No, he thinks his muffler makes him a Japanese comic book hero.

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Old Feb 7, 2017 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by extrashaky
No, he thinks his muffler makes him a Japanese comic book hero.

Gotcha. I remember Tom and Jerry, Yogi bear, Wylie Coyote and the roadrunner.
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Old Feb 9, 2017 | 04:10 PM
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Damn the iPhone auto correct! I meant magnaflow*
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