If you search the Internet long enough, you can find someone who doesn’t like any particular item or idea. Better get used to ESS, most all vehicles will have it. Some who already use it:

BMW
Ford
GM
FCA
Honda
Hyundai
Jaguar
Mazda
Land RoveToyota
VW

 

Considering that this thread started with , how to disable the annoying start stop, I'm just supporting that view.

I like the "A" button that turns it off.

I don't have anything else to add to this.

 

You can buy a module (link below) that permanently disables it ... in other words, once you push in the "A" button to off ... the module keeps it in the off mode no matter how many times you start your car. It will always be off. You never have to push the button "off" again.

Want to turn it back on? Just push the "A" button to the off position again once the car is in the RUN position, and the module no longer turns ESS off. I had one in my 2015 Trailhawk. Worked great.

I'm buying a new module for the 2019 Cherokee Limited I just bought.

I have nothing to do with the company. I just enjoy their product. And I hate what ESS does to the starter and battery. Yes I know the battery and starter are "heavy duty". But the battery alone is around $250. I had to replace mine due to a bad Battery Current Sensor like Callab shows above. I don't know what the starters cost yet. For around $100, I prefer to keep my engine running, and not have it stop and start 100 times while driving through town.

While I'm at it, I'm not sure the battery will charge correctly, with that two-pin plug removed from the sensor. My sensor went bad. And within weeks, my battery was not charging properly. I drive 60 miles/day on the interstate so it had plenty of time to charge. Plus my VOM showed a solid 13.8v output (from the alternator) when the engine RPM's were up above about 1600.

I'd have to charge the battery overnight every few days with a charger clamped to the battery terminals. Then within a couple days or so, if I put a meter on the battery terminals, it would show 11.(some) volts. That's how I found out the sensor had gone bad. But it also ruined my battery. $250 battery, $100 sensor. I believe pulling that plug out would have some effect on the charging current due to the signal it puts out getting back to modules that tell the alternator when and how long to put out voltage.

Just my two cents. I've been known to be wrong before.

https://www.smartstopstart.com/?gcli...IaAhYSEALw_wcB

 

You know what else works, and for almost the same price AND You get a better more useful product vs something that just does 1 think.

AlfaOBD and the OBDlinkMX+ Adapter

 

I'll check those out. Thanks

 

battery went out at 40000 miles. Just after the warranty. Can't believe the warranty the battery by miles.

 

I just read this another two years down the road and that ain't the fix.
That just keeps the power to the radio and electric windows and a couple other things running after the engine shuts off.
But, I guess you figured that out in 2018.....................

 

I opened "Apps"> Settings>ENGINE OFF ON POWER DELAY and Holy Mother of Start-Stop! I could set the delay for that nuisance function all the way up to 10 minutes! Done deal, simple. Yeah, sure it only took me 2 1/2 years and I'm probably the only one who didn't know about this fix but just in case there's a couple guys out there like me, I hope this helps. Thanks-gator


Thanks so much for this. Worked like a charm on my new 2021 Cherokee.
No more having to remember to disable it every time I start it up. 10 minutes is effectively forever. Now to find a locking gas cap or gas door...

 

Did you miss the part where that setting has nothing to do with start-stop?

 

Ya, I guess I did Such a shame it can't be turned off.

Also don't like the fact you can't add a locking gas cap or door...

 

Do you not have the button on the drivers door to pop the filler door? Actually I have a complaint about that. In winter it sometimes sticks with ice and you need to pull on the door as you hit the button. Obviously my arms aren't that long and I've learned to wedge a pen cap under the edge and then walk back around to the drivers door and hit the button again, all while everyone around me assumes I'm an idiot and forgot to hit the button. Silicon spray on the rubber gasket helps a lot, but it still happens a few times during the winter.

 

Sadly, the 2021s do not have a locking door so no push button. Also no way to add a locking gas cap ☹️

 

Well huh. I just peeked at the owners manual, and they also went with the cap-less fill pipe. The one that lots of people complain about.

 

I tried setting the auto stop on my 2019 TH under the same apps/settings/engine off delay and set it to five minutes, but it doesn't work. I still have to manually disable the auto start/stop using the button each time I start the vehicle. What am I missing?

 

Reading the rest of the thread, where we point out that setting has nothing to do with the start/stop. That setting changes how long the accessories stay on after you turn the engine off and don't open the drivers door..