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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 03:03 PM
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Never said that the USA was the only place Warn and Ramsey are manufactured. They are sold and used all over the world so I'm sure they are also manufactured in other places. Just saying that all three Warn winches I've owned and the Ramsey all had made in USA stickers on them and that they are manufactured in the US.
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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 07:52 PM
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but so you believe that it is right to put a made in the usa sticker on something that was manufactured in mexico.
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by greengoblin
sorry to say warn winches are made in mexico as well. this quote is right off there web site.

"To comply with the latest automotive industry standard ISO/TS 16949:2002 Warn Industries obtained certification in 2004. In 2005, Warn opened a sales office in the Netherlands, added a Distribution Center in Clackamas, Oregon, a distribution facility in Gahanna, Ohio and expanded its manufacturing capability by opening a production plant in Saltillo, Mexico."

but in my opinion they are the best winches out there. would love to have one.
I have always heard from anyone who has ever owned a Warn that they will never use anything differant. and just in defense (just to say...lol) It could be that the poster you are replying to just doesn't have the new info, but it is interested that they are outsourcing a little, meaning that a lot of people who buy Warn is because it is American made.

Also, my milemarker always worked great, I just did some stupid things (submerging in saltwater) that caused it to fail. Also, I found it a little amusing because when I did order mine, I was going for an 8500 and they (Milemarker) said the 8500 winches were being recalled because the winches were shorting out from water damage, and they upgraded me to a 9500... at my expense, and it failed then too...

I would by a MileMarker now, since I don't go under water anymore, but If I was still stationed at CLNC, I wouldn't. lol
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by greengoblin
but so you believe that it is right to put a made in the usa sticker on something that was manufactured in mexico.
How hard is it to understand that Warn winches are made in more than one place. Warn winches are manufactured in Oregon and Mexico maybe even some other places.

I never stated anything about my believing it was ok to stick a made in USA sticker on anything built in Mexico.

Let me do this again, I have owned three Warn winches that were manufactured in the USA. I have also owned one Ramsey winch that was manufactured in the USA. All four of these winches had made in the USA stickers on them.
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Rock Toy
How hard is it to understand that Warn winches are made in more than one place. Warn winches are manufactured in Oregon and Mexico maybe even some other places.

I never stated anything about my believing it was ok to stick a made in USA sticker on anything built in Mexico.

Let me do this again, I have owned three Warn winches that were manufactured in the USA. I have also owned one Ramsey winch that was manufactured in the USA. All four of these winches had made in the USA stickers on them.
ok you have owned three warns and one ramsey that all have made in the usa stickers on them. my point is if the winch was manufactured in mexico then dont put a made in the usa sticker on it. that was my point im not bashing you i am bashing warn for opening manufacturing plants in mexico and puting made in the usa stickers on them.
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 03:48 PM
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ok ok ok, aside from where there built, im looking into a winch. im more on a budget and it wont get used all that often. which winch would be best (on a budget of course) bang for my buck?
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CPLSeraphim
I have always heard from anyone who has ever owned a Warn that they will never use anything differant. and just in defense (just to say...lol) It could be that the poster you are replying to just doesn't have the new info, but it is interested that they are outsourcing a little, meaning that a lot of people who buy Warn is because it is American made.

Also, my milemarker always worked great, I just did some stupid things (submerging in saltwater) that caused it to fail. Also, I found it a little amusing because when I did order mine, I was going for an 8500 and they (Milemarker) said the 8500 winches were being recalled because the winches were shorting out from water damage, and they upgraded me to a 9500... at my expense, and it failed then too...

I would by a MileMarker now, since I don't go under water anymore, but If I was still stationed at CLNC, I wouldn't. lol
i would buy an american made winch if i could of afford one. warn does make the best winch i will give them that
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 05:31 PM
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cant say from experie nce what brand is the best. I bought a promark off road silver back 10,000 lb winch last year. It works everytime I need it to,could hang my jeep from a tree only trouble ive had was last weekend was getting it to free spool took me a few times to disengauge was midnight about ten degrees and had a few drinks in me
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ol'DixieJeep
ok ok ok, aside from where there built, im looking into a winch. im more on a budget and it wont get used all that often. which winch would be best (on a budget of course) bang for my buck?
i was on a budget when i bought my 10000lb smitty built and has not failed me yet but as you said i dont need it that much. only when i do something stupid! just keep in mind all winches need for the motor to cool down so if your really stuck. you might not be able to do a full pull with it
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ol'DixieJeep
ok ok ok, aside from where there built, im looking into a winch. im more on a budget and it wont get used all that often. which winch would be best (on a budget of course) bang for my buck?
It is hard saying which winch will be the best bang for your buck when you say you're on a budget and then don't state how much you can spend.
There are cheaper winches from Smitty Built, Rough Country, and Rugged Ridge. Most have had good luck with them, but some have had really bad luck with them. Warn builds a 8000 lb winch the VR8000 that has a lifetime limited warranty, is backed by Warn and cost less than 480 with free shipping.
I would go with the Warn. Just my .02
Link to VR8000:
http://www.gowarn.com/prodDetail.aspx?partNo=WAR86245

Greengoblin: As far as I know Warn doesn't build winches in Mexico that they label Made in the USA. I'm pretty sure
that would be illegal, that is why my pickup has an assembled in Canada sticker.

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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Rock Toy

It is hard saying which winch will be the best bang for your buck when you say you're on a budget and then don't state how much you can spend.
There are cheaper winches from Smitty Built, Rough Country, and Rugged Ridge. Most have had good luck with them, but some have had really bad luck with them. Warn builds a 8000 lb winch the VR8000 that has a lifetime limited warranty, is backed by Warn and cost less than 480 with free shipping.
I would go with the Warn. Just my .02
Link to VR8000:
http://www.gowarn.com/prodDetail.aspx?partNo=WAR86245

Greengoblin: As far as I know Warn doesn't build winches in Mexico that they label Made in the USA. I'm pretty sure
that would be illegal, that is why my pickup has an assembled in Canada sticker.
Sucks cause less than a year ago i paid 550 for my m8000 shipped i believe. They went up a bunch i think.
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jcwclm
They pay them by giving them the winch to test.....I believe it is unbiased.
Look for the 9k winch shootout in one of the 4wheel mags. There were two winches that didn't break during testing. The warn took a **** and still won... Sounds biased to me.
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mr white

Look for the 9k winch shootout in one of the 4wheel mags. There were two winches that didn't break during testing. The warn took a **** and still won... Sounds biased to me.
Didnt take a **** if were talking about the same article. It didnt make as far of a pull due to it needing more electrical power.
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 02:13 PM
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I've had a super winch LP10000 for a few years and it has served me well. They are pretty inexpensive.
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by greengoblin
i would buy an american made winch if i could of afford one. warn does make the best winch i will give them that
http://www.fourwheeler.com/techartic...t/viewall.html
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