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Old 11-25-2011, 09:04 PM
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Needing to get a SYE for my 99' XJ with 5.5" lift. I know there are so many out there to choose from but would really like to get some feedback from a real user. I have a few in mind. Running a 231 TC. What SYE are you running? And what drive shaft? Lenth?

http://roughcountry.com/jeep_xtras_slip_yoke.html

http://www.ebay.com/itm/360407759814...84.m1423.l2649

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I picked up an AA SYE kit straight from them. You can pick one up for about 2 bills. As far as driveline goes, I went with a Coast Driveline. The guys there were great and we had some good conversations about competitors shafts, no pun...
I took measurements for what I had from yoke to yoke and they walked me through the process of elimination as far as what length I needed.
Of course this depends on what you are running, aftermarket leaf packs, or something custom from Deaver or Alcan to say a full coil conversion.
Most companies such as JE Reel, Coast Driveline and Tom Woods deal with this everyday and that most have some "preset" measurement depending on your overall lift.
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I was hoping to run a factory XJ front shaft in the rear to save $, but if its not going to be long enough can I have a drive line shop lenthin it using another spare XJ front shaft I have?

Wanting to order the SYE monday morning, so you guys opinion would be great!
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Originally Posted by b.mcdaniel.2009
I was hoping to run a factory XJ front shaft in the rear to save $, but if its not going to be long enough can I have a drive line shop lenthin it using another spare XJ front shaft I have?

Wanting to order the SYE monday morning, so you guys opinion would be great!
If you get a front shaft outta a v8 zj it's 2 inches longer than a XJ front shaft... Worked for me on my old jeep,And I'm sure would be cheaper and stronger than an extended XJ shaft, ask me how I know lol
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I have a NP242 case, so I have to run a HNT until I am done building the NP231 case. But the style your looking at is the ideal setup, its stronger and longer lasting then the HNT (hack and tap)

as for drive-line I have a stock XJ automatic front drive-line as my rear. works great sitting at 5.5" of lift and moved the rear axle back 1 inch. should work just fine for most kits. The hard part is depending on your setup, lift, rear axle it may not be perfect. wont know until you try.

the drive-line above looks like it was extended in a cheap way and the welds broke, this is not normal. Was a hack job. Any Quality drive-line shop would re-tube it with a new tube if its to short, welding in a smaller tube to extend it adds another fail point and is just bad practice IMO.

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the drive-line above looks like it was extended in a cheap way and the welds broke, this is not normal. Was a hack job. Any Quality drive-line shop would re-tube it with a new tube if its to short, welding in a smaller tube to extend it adds another fail point and is just bad practice IMO.

I'm not doubting it was done in a cheap and horrible way,came to find out Most of that jeep was... Just sharing experiences that's all lol
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Originally Posted by XJ JoeyD
the drive-line above looks like it was extended in a cheap way and the welds broke, this is not normal. Was a hack job. Any Quality drive-line shop would re-tube it with a new tube if its to short, welding in a smaller tube to extend it adds another fail point and is just bad practice IMO.

I'm not doubting it was done in a cheap and horrible way,came to find out Most of that jeep was... Just sharing experiences that's all lol
I know. just stating that an extended "modified" drive-line should be as strong or stronger. don't want people reading this and thinking modified drive-lines are junk. but it does happen.
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Check out iron rock off road.I have there hack&tap kit and have no issues with drive shaft length with 6.5" of lift
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Originally Posted by Gorillaxj
I know. just stating that an extended "modified" drive-line should be as strong or stronger. don't want people reading this and thinking modified drive-lines are junk. but it does happen.

I had a local drive line shop extend a few shafts for my Samurai in the past . Had a built 350 with 35" boggers and held up great. Its much cheaper also. As long as the shop knows what there doing, I think it will be strong enough also.
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Originally Posted by XJ JoeyD
If you get a front shaft outta a v8 zj it's 2 inches longer than a XJ front shaft... Worked for me on my old jeep,And I'm sure would be cheaper and stronger than an extended XJ shaft, ask me how I know lol
Great to know!
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Two of my XJ's have the AA SYE and one has the P.O.R.C. SYE. I see no difference in the two brands. I got a deal on all 3, paid $150 for AA's and $175 for the PORC.

I'm running stock XJ front shafts and have never had an issue, plus they are cheap/easy to find and you only have to carry one spare(it will work front/rear)
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Originally Posted by xjtrailrider

I'm running stock XJ front shafts and have never had an issue, plus they are cheap/easy to find and you only have to carry one spare(it will work front/rear)
Works like a champ. Pick and pull and rebuild if necessary.
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JB CONVERSIONS has the BEST sye kit on the market. call them and they will convince you to buy their kit. and they still have very competitive pricing! they have close ties with New Process Gear. <= the company that makes our tcases!

http://www.jbconversions.com/product...1j_std_sye.php
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and i have the AX-15 so i needed a longer driveshaft. so I looked at the chart on THIS page and found a grand cherokee shaft out of a 93 on ebay for $25 and it is the perfect length! i still have 2-3Inches of slip on it. its 33" ujoint to ujoint compresssed

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XJ 89/01 2.5 Manual 25.310 53005541
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XJ 89/01 4.0 Manual 29.250 53005543
XJ 89/00 4.0 Manual 27.080 Export 53005544
XJ 89/00 4.0 Automatic 28.620 Export 53005545
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XJ 95/01 Diesel 27.640 Export 52098208

ZJ 1993 4.0 Automatic 30.530 52098341
ZJ 93/95 5.2 Automatic 32.870 w/o CV 53008427
ZJ 94/95 5.2 A500 30.625 w/o CV 52087805
ZJ 94/95 4.0 A500 w/o CV 52098790
ZJ 93/96 4.0 Manual 52098344
ZJ 93/96 4.0, 5.2 31.875 w/ 231, 242 52087805
ZJ 93/95 4.0 Manual 30.000 w/231 52088090
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ZJ 96/98 5.2, 5.9 31.250 w/ 249 & Model 30 52098379
ZJ 1996 5.2 Automatic 32.875 w/ 249 & Model 30 52098501
ZJ 96/98 4.0 33.000 w/ 242 52098707
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AA. trail proven. only place i would buy another from.

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