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Old May 31, 2020 | 02:37 AM
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Hello, I’m very new to the forums and this is my first post. I have a ‘99 XJ 4.0 and the previous owner has cut into some wires on one of the sensors and I have no idea what it is. I’ve been having an issue with my Jeep where it will lurch and the rpm’s will shoot up when I hit bumps and sometimes when I’m just driving normally. It doesn’t do it all the time and it’s mainly when I’m hitting rough spots on the road. Every once in awhile it will die at a red light also. It’s throwing a P1391 code occasionally but it goes away within a day or so. I’ve replaced my TPS very recently and didn’t fix the issue. If anybody could please give me some insight on what this might be I would greatly appreciate it.

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Old May 31, 2020 | 04:11 AM
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IAC. Idle Air Control.
Looks like a new pigtail can be bought if you need one.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...connector,2589
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Old May 31, 2020 | 08:46 AM
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Wire nuts? In a vehicle?

NEVER!


Idiots like that should not be allowed to own cars.
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Originally Posted by BlueRidgeMark
Wire nuts? In a vehicle?

NEVER!


Idiots like that should not be allowed to own cars.
Absolutely agreed. The guy I bought it from wasn’t the brightest obviously.
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Originally Posted by Ralph77
IAC. Idle Air Control.
Looks like a new pigtail can be bought if you need one.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...connector,2589
Thank you! Do you think this could be the source of my problems?
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Old May 31, 2020 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Chandler.cig
Thank you! Do you think this could be the source of my problems?
I think so.
The IAC isn't a sensor, it's a small actuator that controls air during idle and low load.
It bypasses the throttle body (because it needs to flow only a small amount of air during idle, much smaller than the throttle body can control) so if it turns on when it should not, I imagine it could increase RPMs at any load (not in front of the Jeep st the moment, so others should correct me if I'm wrong)
If it shuts off when it should not, then it could cause you to stall or cause RPMs to be erratic at low loads (at a stoplight).

I'd say fix it - it's likely at least part of the cause of your issues. It definitely would make me sleep better to replace and repair that wiring regardless. It'll cause a problem eventually.

If you replace the IAC itself remember you might need to adjust the new one. It's not hard. Lots of guides and instructions online. There also should be a little sheet of paper in the box telling you how to do it. It might need you to take it out and adjust and reinstall once or twice if you get it way wrong. If it's adjusted wrong it is obvious (either stalls or RPMs are very high at idle).

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In the short term if you are plant on replacing the harness, maybe replace the wire nuts with automotive wire crimps/ connections. That will be 100 times better than the wire nut as long as the only issue is the wire nuts (and not incorrect wiring).

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I am noticing that a P1391 looks like a Crankshaft or Camshaft positioning sensor thing.
So I am going with a no.
I don't have much experience with this but usually the high idle problems that guys sometimes
experience is caused by the IAC.
Regardless that needs to be corrected.
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Originally Posted by Ralph77
Regardless that needs to be corrected.
Agreed!

Fix known problems first!

It needs to be done either way. If it fixes the problem, great! If not, you have removed a variable and can do better diagnosis in the next step.
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I would only ever use wire nuts in a vehicle in an absolute emergency. I mean broke down, side of the road, no other options, just to get home.

Fix it. It may not be a problem at the moment, but it will be at some point.

Also do like Ralph77 says, check out the Crank sensor as well.
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Originally Posted by Ralph77
I am noticing that a P1391 looks like a Crankshaft or Camshaft positioning sensor thing.
So I am going with a no.
I don't have much experience with this but usually the high idle problems that guys sometimes
experience is caused by the IAC.
Regardless that needs to be corrected.
I missed that there was a code - good catch. I agree that the CPS should be checked.

I know the typical IAC symptoms are high idle, but I thought that's usually bdue to poor adjustment or a leak. This is a whole can of worms because of the wiring and I figured was more of an intermittent isse, maybe similar to an intake leak. Definitely doesn't fit into "typical" issue territory. Fun!

I wonder how the CPS harness looks if the previous owner did this to the IAC
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OP seems solid. Thank you in advance for saving this Jeep from whatever hell it experienced before.

Hopefully it's not time for an entirely different wiring harness.
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Originally Posted by Chandler.cig
Absolutely agreed. The guy I bought it from wasn’t the brightest obviously.

hope that means you got a deal!!
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Originally Posted by moonsandals
I think so.
The IAC isn't a sensor, it's a small actuator that controls air during idle and low load.
It bypasses the throttle body (because it needs to flow only a small amount of air during idle, much smaller than the throttle body can control) so if it turns on when it should not, I imagine it could increase RPMs at any load (not in front of the Jeep st the moment, so others should correct me if I'm wrong)
If it shuts off when it should not, then it could cause you to stall or cause RPMs to be erratic at low loads (at a stoplight).

I'd say fix it - it's likely at least part of the cause of your issues. It definitely would make me sleep better to replace and repair that wiring regardless. It'll cause a problem eventually.

If you replace the IAC itself remember you might need to adjust the new one. It's not hard. Lots of guides and instructions online. There also should be a little sheet of paper in the box telling you how to do it. It might need you to take it out and adjust and reinstall once or twice if you get it way wrong. If it's adjusted wrong it is obvious (either stalls or RPMs are very high at idle).

EDIT
In the short term if you are plant on replacing the harness, maybe replace the wire nuts with automotive wire crimps/ connections. That will be 100 times better than the wire nut as long as the only issue is the wire nuts (and not incorrect wiring).
Thank you so much for your help I greatly appreciate it. I’ll have some time to work on the jeep tomorrow so I’ll keep y’all posted and let you know how it goes!
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Originally Posted by Reyes91xj
hope that means you got a deal!!
I feel like I got a pretty good deal for what I paid. I got it at 155k miles a few months ago
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Originally Posted by Battle
OP seems solid. Thank you in advance for saving this Jeep from whatever hell it experienced before.

Hopefully it's not time for an entirely different wiring harness.
I sure hope not. That would really suck.
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