I'm not saying winches aren't amazing to have but if your on a budget lockers will get you farther then the winch plus for somebody that's starting out off roading a come a long will teach them to think before the jump off into random mud pits and hardcore obstacles

 

SLIDERS, BUMPERS, SKIDS, Then Gears, and Lockers

 

I do agree but at the same time taking care of his rig and being responsible is is own choice, I remember taking a Geo car fwd mudding along with a Dodge Monaco and drag it out into we blew the transmission in the Dodge, if it's a toy it will be treated like one, if it's daily driver and he loves it he'll treat it that way.

back when I was at the point were this young gentleman is building his Jeep I was told a which is a 4 wheelers insurance, pay for it now and drive it home tomorrow, even if it's 1 lamp post at a time.
and that's my take

 

Ok winch first. Thanks

 

No problem and if you lived in va you could have my old one for cheep ha ha

 

What part of VA are you in

 

Roanoke but this isn't a for sale post lol pm me if your thinking about it

 

Dang too far on going up to Charlottesville tomorrow.

 

Right on