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Old Apr 22, 2013 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dynasty_v6
turbos are less maintenance folks, no belt, gears or supercharger oil to charge
Try again. Turbos need a constant oil feed. Plus if you run them too hard without letting them cool before shutdown, they will fail quickly.
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Old Apr 22, 2013 | 10:51 PM
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neither of those qualify as "maintenance"
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by askingxforxit
Try again. Turbos need a constant oil feed. Plus if you run them too hard without letting them cool before shutdown, they will fail quickly.
oil less turbos are very common today.

http://www.compturbo.com/spotlights/oilless

I've had a supercharger car. After dealing w turbo stuff I'd rather go turbo. boost is built on load, not rpm. couple an inline motor with a small turbo and you'd have tons of tq by 1500 rpm, only growing beyond that.
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by askingxforxit
Try again. Turbos need a constant oil feed. Plus if you run them too hard without letting them cool before shutdown, they will fail quickly.
Today alot of turboed vehicles use water cooled housings oil coking is not near what it used to be. I had turbo timers on my cars and I do not shut down my diesels untill the EGTs are at 3-400 degrees.
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by s346k
oil less turbos are very common today.

http://www.compturbo.com/spotlights/oilless

I've had a supercharger car. After dealing w turbo stuff I'd rather go turbo. boost is built on load, not rpm. couple an inline motor with a small turbo and you'd have tons of tq by 1500 rpm, only growing beyond that.
Nice link !
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 11:44 AM
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Wow....ANOTHER turbo thread?

Find the search button. Type in "turbo" and click search....

This has been covered over and over and over.

And 99% of the discussions end crappily. Too much misinformation, too many assumptions made by folks that haven't done anything like it, and too many butt hurt members posted when their feelers get hurt.
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
Wow....ANOTHER turbo thread?

Find the search button. Type in "turbo" and click search....

This has been covered over and over and over.

And 99% of the discussions end crappily. Too much misinformation, too many assumptions made by folks that haven't done anything like it, and too many butt hurt members posted when their feelers get hurt.
I'm gonna agree with this. Hell i think the last turbo thread was pretty long too. And got closed two or three times.
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by xj_maniac_newb
And got closed two or three times.
At least!
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 11:57 AM
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For the life of me I just cant understand how effective a turbo would be for crawling, building boost and breaking parts would suck.

Trying to make a brick go fast is expensive.
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 11:59 AM
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Depends on how its done.

A hybrid turbo would be best.

Large hotside with a HUGE wastegate. Medium compressor side for quick spool.

Its a 4.0 i6, you dont need huge boost numbers, and you'll get plenty of boost at low RPMs.
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 12:03 PM
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If a 4G63T 2.0 4cyl can spool a 50 trim to 20+ lbs of boost by 2500 rpm a Jeep 4.0 will spool a turbo real fast.
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 12:07 PM
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Guessing at compressor maps is not a cheap gamble .
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
If a 4G63T 2.0 4cyl can spool a 50 trim to 20+ lbs of boost by 2500 rpm a Jeep 4.0 will spool a turbo real fast.
What A/R housing ? What wheel ? There are a few "50 trim" turbos ! I had a 90 talon GST and an 89 eclipse GSX ! Both cars were modded alittle ! Thinking about another but all I find are gutted race cars I want a daily driver with creature features .

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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 12:11 PM
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Water crossings and slow speed rock crawling are not compatible with hot turbine housings and super hot under hood temps.
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CobraMarty
Water crossings and slow speed rock crawling are not compatible with hot turbine housings and super hot under hood temps.
Keep your egt's down and you won't have to worry about cracking. Keep in mind your exhaust manifold gets just as hot and it doesn't crack when it goes thru water...

And air to water intercoolers are amazing.
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