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Why dont you just trim, and adjust your turning stops for now so you can run the 31s stock. then save up for a nice lift, like RE, MetalCLoak, OME, ect..
I will be trimming regardless but all of my bump stops are gone and it's just the bolt that is left and I don't want to accidentally rub on the top of the well going over a speed bump for example. I don't want to spend the money on replacing them when I will be replacing the coils soon anyways. My mechanic advised me to wait for the lift to replace bump stops, but I am new to this stuff so I don't know if a nonexistent bump stop will cause problems or not when you run 31's.
lol what are bump stops? I'm missing one completely in the front and the rest are stock and on there way out. my buddy ran stock with 31s with no issues after we lightly trimmed his fenders. you'll be fine, it'll only rub while flexing and maybe if you hit a bump really hard but I doubt that. **** I'm at 3.5 and 35s and can hit bumps hard as hell with no rubbing.
lol what are bump stops? I'm missing one completely in the front and the rest are stock and on there way out. my buddy ran stock with 31s with no issues after we lightly trimmed his fenders. you'll be fine, it'll only rub while flexing and maybe if you hit a bump really hard but I doubt that. **** I'm at 3.5 and 35s and can hit bumps hard as hell with no rubbing.
Bump stops stop the suspension from completely bottoming out and the bottom of the suspension banging into the top of the suspension and causing damage. The bump stops won't be much of a problem with a lift though. But if I were to use my jeep for minor prerunning it would be a very good idea to have bump stops in there, maybe even slightly taller ones to compensate for tire size to stop the tires from rubbing the tops of the wells like yours do.
He knows what bump stops are, he was asking in jest. I suggest you do some more research before doing anything. I'll be blunt here, you are talking about "minor prerunning" with the cheapest of cheap lift kits, get this kit and even bumpstops and something is still guaranteed to break. Like I said, youve been here long enough; maybe you should have spent some time here planning instead of making threads like what's your Jeeps name or the crazy idea thread. In another thread you are asking if a track bar and TC case is needed with a 3" lift...pretty sure that's been answered here a bajillion times. You're young, do some homework on the subject, then get an A on the Jeep. You're trying to slide by with a D- right now in hopes of passing.
I only rub while flexing. I can haul as through the desert no problem. I'm just trying telling you a couple friends have ran stock on 31s with trimmed fender with no issues.
If those are 31x10:50 you will need new wheels also so the tires won't hit the frame or LCA's a 15x8" with 3.75-4" of BS.
thats not necessarily true.. i run stock wheels with a 32's and have no issues at all.. they barley touched the lower control arm so i adjusted the steering stop bolts.. i swear i couldn't have turned that bolt more then one turn out and not they don't hit at all. have had it out a few times since and i don't notice any less turning radius at all.. i'm sure its a hair less but nothing that has hurt me.
and i agree. do it right the first time. if you can't afford to do it righ then don't do it. save more money.. if you need tires bad now find some cheap used ones somewhere until you can afford to what you want to do. not worth half assing it the first time.
He said he can get 31s cheaper than stock size, its not doing anything wrong, as he's not changing a damn thing except tire size and removing some metal. this is the way I see it, and stock, trimmed, with 31s is perfect, because once you do lift it, youll be perfectly set up to run 33s or 35s
He said he can get 31s cheaper than stock size, its not doing anything wrong, as he's not changing a damn thing except tire size and removing some metal. this is the way I see it, and stock, trimmed, with 31s is perfect, because once you do lift it, youll be perfectly set up to run 33s or 35s
I will be lifting it eventually but I want to do it right the first time. Trying to research parts and stuff.
He knows what bump stops are, he was asking in jest. I suggest you do some more research before doing anything. I'll be blunt here, you are talking about "minor prerunning" with the cheapest of cheap lift kits, get this kit and even bumpstops and something is still guaranteed to break. Like I said, youve been here long enough; maybe you should have spent some time here planning instead of making threads like what's your Jeeps name or the crazy idea thread. In another thread you are asking if a track bar and TC case is needed with a 3" lift...pretty sure that's been answered here a bajillion times. You're young, do some homework on the subject, then get an A on the Jeep. You're trying to slide by with a D- right now in hopes of passing.
Correct there will always be someone telling you that you can get by with almost nothing as they have did it and "Got By" not doing a thing properly. Sometimes its like the blind leading the blind lol.
abodyjoe what happens when you air those tires down for off road use with those "Stock rims and LCA's"???
Correct there will always be someone telling you that you can get by with almost nothing as they have did it and "Got By" not doing a thing properly. Sometimes its like the blind leading the blind lol.
abodyjoe what happens when you air those tires down for off road use with those "Stock rims and LCA's"???
lol blind leading the blind? I'm curious to what I'm telling him that's not right? can he not run 31s at stock height? what real issues is he gonna have that something more that a Lil inconvenience like rubbing lca's(which can be adjusted). But I guess when you buy a rustys kit you become an expert on every thing jeep huh? you kinda sound like a lift companies recommendation section lol
I will be lifting it eventually but I want to do it right the first time. Trying to research parts and stuff.
if you wanna do it once. pick a final tire size you want to run and build it around those. if you want to go bigger than 35s don't bother building the stock axles. if you plan on going long arm, don't bother upgrading shorts arms. if I were to do it all over again I would save up at least 12k, and go all out the first time. you're smart by researching. but just from personal experience all the research you can do all the research in the world, the second you can't make an obstacle your gonna want to up upgrade
if you wanna do it once. pick a final tire size you want to run and build it around those. if you want to go bigger than 35s don't bother building the stock axles. if you plan on going long arm, don't bother upgrading shorts arms. if I were to do it all over again I would save up at least 12k, and go all out the first time. you're smart by researching. but just from personal experience all the research you can do all the research in the world, the second you can't make an obstacle your gonna want to up upgrade
Makes sense. And I do want to do long arms because I watched a video explaining lifts and how they affect the control arms and what the differences are between long arm and short arm. I guess the title of this thread is irrelevant because it doesn't seem like there is any way I can do a "SUPER budget lift" if I want to do it right the first time. And 31's is going to be my set size. I can't afford the rock crawling upgrades but I want to do more of a prerunning setup and my leafs are getting super old and my shocks might be gone because it's way too easy to bob the front end. When it comes to a lift, especially with long arms, should I just install all of the parts at once? And if so should I just trim around the wheel wells to accommodate the 31's before I lift?
If your gonna stop at 31s I wouldn't even go long arms. You need to lift at least 3" for them and IMO a trimmed XJ on 3"+ ad 31s kinda looks like the jeep skipped leg day. if you want to eat up bumps I would get these for the front http://www.racingsprings.com/Jeep-Sp...250P/Item/1652
some 2" leafs for the back, and some bilstein 5100's at the very least, do the GC tie rod upgrade, some new LCA's/UCA's, progressive bumpstops, and call it a day.
for reference here a pic of mine before I went to 35s. It has 31s, 3.5" RE springs, long arms, and a lil trimming. Now you can see how it looks like the jeep skipped leg day.
Liam, get the 31's. Drive it around. See what happens. No sense in overthinking this idea to death. Find out what you need to address, and address it. I'm pretty sure with the right driving habits, You can rock some 31's before you lift for a bit. Save up, get a good lift, and go from there.
If you need to trim a bit, trim a little. If you can get a good set of tires on rims for cheap then do it. Should be a no brainer.
But the rule of thumb here is don't buy junk. Stick to that and you're cool.
