Modified XJ Cherokee Tech XJ (84-01)
All modified tech questions. If it modifies your XJ beyond stock parts ask it here.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

stretched wheel base. whats needed

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-27-2013, 02:46 PM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Rusti's91xj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: cd'a idaho
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Year: 89
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default stretched wheel base. whats needed

Hey guys so i have searched and searched it seems like people just haven't posted much or covered my issues so here i am.iam looking to use my adjustable c.a's to push my.axle forward maybe an inch or 2 for front bumber clearance and a flatter control arm for better flex.what Ineed to know is iam planning on a double shear t.b and iam at about 4/4.25 of lift are thing gonna bind up and make it not worth it or am Iwithin limits for reasonable on road of road ride?
Old 04-27-2013, 02:53 PM
  #2  
Member
 
MountiansRcool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: SL,UT
Posts: 227
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0l
Default

i was looking to do this aswell only push it about 2 inches foreword
Old 04-27-2013, 03:33 PM
  #3  
CF Veteran
 
BNJeepsta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Warren, Pa
Posts: 2,164
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

I'm not sure where it is, but there is a certain point where you need to move the steering box forward. I highly doubt that 1" will cause any issues, but if you go too far, your steering linkage will hit the swaybar mounts and the diff cover.
Old 04-27-2013, 04:17 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
ta2tony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 812
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by Rusti's91xj
Hey guys so i have searched and searched it seems like people just haven't posted much or covered my issues so here i am.iam looking to use my adjustable c.a's to push my.axle forward maybe an inch or 2 for front bumber clearance and a flatter control arm for better flex.what Ineed to know is iam planning on a double shear t.b and iam at about 4/4.25 of lift are thing gonna bind up and make it not worth it or am Iwithin limits for reasonable on road of road ride?
Yeah, the double sheer design is not going to accommodate the axle moving forward. You will need to modify the frame side bracket to move the mounting location forward as much as the axle. The double sheer will not pivot forward like the single sheer t/b's with flex joints frame side.
Old 04-27-2013, 04:26 PM
  #5  
Old School CF Moderator
 
Xj88's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Chattanooga
Posts: 9,652
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Year: 2001
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

I have right at around 2 inches of stretch..no issues.
Custom 3 link..4.5" of lift.
Just added th stretch to my arms of the 3 link
Old 04-27-2013, 04:40 PM
  #6  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Rusti's91xj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: cd'a idaho
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Year: 89
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by Xj88
I have right at around 2 inches of stretch..no issues.
Custom 3 link..4.5" of lift.
Just added th stretch to my arms of the 3 link
Ok this is what i need so what t.bar setup are you running? And do you notice a deference in the belly dragging more because of a little stretch
Old 04-27-2013, 04:44 PM
  #7  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Rusti's91xj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: cd'a idaho
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Year: 89
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by ta2tony
Yeah, the double sheer design is not going to accommodate the axle moving forward. You will need to modify the frame side bracket to move the mounting location forward as much as the axle. The double sheer will not pivot forward like the single sheer t/b's with flex joints frame side.
Ok i didnt see the part about the single sheer with f.side flex joint. You guys think this is the way to go?
Old 04-27-2013, 04:48 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
ta2tony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 812
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by Rusti's91xj
Ok i didnt see the part about the single sheer with f.side flex joint. You guys think this is the way to go?
Not really. Even with the flex joint top side, the axle end needs to sit parallel inside the bracket or you'll wear out the axle end bushing and introduce the DW. If you don't want to modify the frame mount. You'll need to use a flex joint on the frame side and modify the bar need the axle end so that there is a bend in the bar so it will be parallel to the axle where it mounts to the bracket.
Old 04-27-2013, 04:55 PM
  #9  
CF Veteran
 
BNJeepsta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Warren, Pa
Posts: 2,164
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Use an over the axle t bar bracket. That way you can get the correct alignment.
Old 04-27-2013, 04:58 PM
  #10  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Rusti's91xj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: cd'a idaho
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Year: 89
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

So then the question is whats the better fix.i woukd think the frame bracket but i have no access to a welder can the frame just be drilled and bolted forward the equal amount of axle moveme.and how are the shocks.do they travel freely or is there a preferred setup from stock mounts
Old 04-27-2013, 05:01 PM
  #11  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Rusti's91xj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: cd'a idaho
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Year: 89
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by BNJeepsta
Use an over the axle t bar bracket. That way you can get the correct alignment.
Preferred company? I havent ran across this product
Old 04-27-2013, 05:25 PM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
ta2tony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 812
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by Rusti's91xj
So then the question is whats the better fix.i woukd think the frame bracket but i have no access to a welder can the frame just be drilled and bolted forward the equal amount of axle moveme.and how are the shocks.do they travel freely or is there a preferred setup from stock mounts
You might be able to drill and slide the bracket forward...but you'll have to drop the axle to do so...its pretty tight up in there.

Originally Posted by Rusti's91xj
Preferred company? I havent ran across this product
They probably require being welded to the axle.
Old 04-27-2013, 06:22 PM
  #13  
CF Veteran
 
BNJeepsta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Warren, Pa
Posts: 2,164
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Originally Posted by Rusti's91xj

Preferred company? I havent ran across this product
Look at FST. They are a vendor on here and they sell a real nice one. Also, rough stuff makes a real nice bracket as well
Old 04-27-2013, 11:39 PM
  #14  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Rusti's91xj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: cd'a idaho
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Year: 89
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

i looked a fst and the website didnt have much info as far as if welding is needed would anyone by chance run this setup so they can tell me how sit rides
Old 04-28-2013, 12:26 AM
  #15  
Cherokee Forum Vendor
 
Lead Foot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Lynden, WA
Posts: 1,448
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Last line of the description indicates that the OTA Track Bar bracket needs to be welded on. http://froehlichsuspension.3dcartsto...e-XJ_p_12.html Our frame side track bar bracket is bolt on, double sheer, and also bring the track bar about 1.5" further forward than stock.

Yes, every OTA track bar brack option will need to be welded on. No other way to bring the track bar up using the existing mount.

Something else to think about when planning the stretch is how the shocks will be angled forward quite a bit more and this might cause the bushings to wear more if there is binding.

Kris Froehlich


Quick Reply: stretched wheel base. whats needed



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:09 AM.