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Old Dec 15, 2021 | 01:50 PM
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Hello, I am having severe steering issues. This is my first car so all of this is very new to me and most of the work I do I learn from youtube and reading forums. I recently installed new upper control arms, a new 1 ton steering kit, a new steering stabilizer, and pitman arm. The shop I took it to to get an alignment done said everything is within spec, yet I feel unsafe driving the car. It is an inconsistent problem and that Is why I'm highly confused. I can be going 60 and driving in a straight line and then I will just completely lose control of the steering. It will want to sway left or right, and when I try to correct it, the car will begin to wobble. When I hit a speed bump, nothing happens, but on a straight road, it will want to just dart all over the place. On a side note, I think my right-side rear shock is blown, and don't know if that could be related. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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Old Dec 15, 2021 | 05:07 PM
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I feel your pain, The problem is the type of steering linkage you have. It is good to stick with tie rod ends, but if the drag link attaches to the tie rod instead of the steering knuckle it will cause the tie rod to roll, changing the direction of the front tires. I bet you also have lots of slop in the steering wheel. You can get some nylon washers to put on between the tie rod and steering knuckle, but they won't take all of it out. To fix it you will need to go to a Y link design that has the full drag link pitman arm to steering knuckly
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Old Dec 15, 2021 | 11:48 PM
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Looking at your picture I don't see a sway bar , that can have a lot to do with your feeling a freeway speeds . the body roll can pull and push the steering .
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Old Dec 16, 2021 | 02:08 PM
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yea.. I don't see a sway bar. I looked closer at the first image and saw a track bar [edited]

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Old Dec 16, 2021 | 02:08 PM
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Tall lift with ****ty steering angles not much castor useless steering stabalizer.

why is it jeeps always get a bunch of the wrong parts thrown on them
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Old Dec 16, 2021 | 02:40 PM
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I really like the look of the Jeep, but it looks like it needs some parts, including a bumper
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Old Dec 17, 2021 | 09:01 AM
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SFR High Roller WJ Steering & Big Brake Kit for XJ/MJ – StinkyFab
https://www.stinkyfab.com/products/s...g-brake-kit-xj
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Old Dec 17, 2021 | 10:57 AM
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Hey Evan, I have the 1 ton steering kit from SFR but didnt have the cash for the whole kit. To remount the drag link to the knuckle, do I need to get a new knuckle? It appears to have an extra place to mount it.
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Old Dec 17, 2021 | 12:08 PM
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Drag link will be to short. Tie rod will work

I reused my 1ton over the knuckle steering.
the drag link I made longer by sleeving it with 2" tube. It slides over 1.5"


I also made track bar longer. Tube ends are welded st the bung ontop of 1.5" tube and plug welded Might be an option for you.



Tie rod Was untouched can see were drag link used to go.. in the pic length looks similar but its not
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Old Dec 17, 2021 | 01:05 PM
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Thank you that is very helpful information. Also earlier you stated that the steering stabilizer was useless, is that because of its location or just in general?
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Old Dec 17, 2021 | 01:57 PM
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I guess it would work mounted like that but is less affective becausd its kicked off at an angle from ground forces transmitted from the tires through the tie rod.

Ruffstuffspecialties.com has a diff cover with a stabalizer bracket welded to it and has clamp to mount stabalizer to 1.5" tierods.

I do not feel that stabalizer are needed on a well put together front end for a General trail street driven rig.

I do think if high sphigs are your thing that a steering stabilizer may be a positive Addition to a well put together front end.

However a stabalizer will never make up for steep steering angles steep track bar steep short arms on tall lifts.

I saw mention of 35s and 6" not being streetable. I feel if its not street6it also sucks on the trail has everything to do with cutting corners and not building correctly. From pics and talk on forumns almost non are actually put together well.
those on shorter lifts live with medocer handling rigs all the problems there are intensfied emmensly at 6"

All because most dont put in the effort to do it correctly. Correctly has nothing to do with the jeep all vehichle platforms follow the same goemetry. Its either wrong or right

Marketing to the jeep crowd plays a roll to.
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Originally Posted by beefboss
Thank you that is very helpful information. Also earlier you stated that the steering stabilizer was useless, is that because of its location or just in general?
A steering stabilizer is a band aid put on at the factory in case things get a little loose so you won't have death wobble for awhile, so it will get off warranty etc. A properly set up front end will not have death wobble. I am running about 8" of lift with no steering stabilizer and not a hint of wobble. But everything is tight and geometry is proper
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I think factory steering stabilizers are more marketing. People think they want them so they were given them.
kinda like the z71 and Plastik skidplates and Bilstein 4600 shocks. Theres your offroad package.

Give alittle pay alot.

On the flipside we all want more pay for less work. Just look at our country now 4.3.

Those doing more get more that may not be zrue for our country but is true in the offroad World.

Do less and fall into marketing hype youl be rewarded with less in the way of less time invested more money out off pocket and a ****ty driving rig
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Old Dec 17, 2021 | 04:32 PM
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I can agree. You get what you pay for, but you have to be smart about it or you can pay a lot and not get much. Other mods are just for bragging rights
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Old Dec 19, 2021 | 06:31 PM
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So I was able to find a premade product called "The Cure". I stumbled upon on it on some other forums and think it will be a reliable short-term fix. Unfortunately, yall were right about the type of steering I have, and the drag link creates tie rod roll. The new boot should hopefully eliminate that and then down the road, I will get a knuckle that has two spots to mount and get a longer drag link. Thank you for all of the help.

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https://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/R1768.html

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