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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 09:28 PM
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Default Rugged ridge 1 ton or crown heavy duty steering?

Anybody prefer one over the other. I ordered the Rugged ridge 1 ton steering upgrade. Unfortunately I looked at reviews after the purchase and read multiple people that they experienced 2" of deadspace. That was enough to for me to look for another option in the same price range or lower. Crown has a really affordable set up. Compares to the ZJ V8 upgrade. Not nearly as beefy as the rugged ridge but still an upgrade from stock.
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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 11:52 PM
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I had the JCR one ton kit on my ZJ for a short time. I didn't like it for two reasons. First reason is clearance issues when turning full lock to the right, the tie rod would hit the track bar bolt. The second reason was the worst, severe death wobble and bump steer. I put the stock system back on with a Rough Country tie rod and the steering is a lot better. Still a little bump steer, but nothing like what I had with the JCR stuff.
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 09:53 AM
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If your running 37" tires or larger you need a 1 ton steering upgrade. For smaller tires I have had good luck with 33 & 35" tires using the V-8 ZJ upgrade I bought from AutoZone for under a $100 the ones I got were Moog but their brand.


I have no steering issues on or off road, it all depends on tires and the type of wheeling you do.
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Fred/N0AZZ
If your running 37" tires or larger you need a 1 ton steering upgrade. For smaller tires I have had good luck with 33 & 35" tires using the V-8 ZJ upgrade I bought from AutoZone for under a $100 the ones I got were Moog but their brand.

I have no steering issues on or off road, it all depends on tires and the type of wheeling you do.
Perfect. I don't plan on going any bigger than 33s. I'm gonna stick with the crown set up then. Which is basically a zj v8 upgrade. The 1 ton looked like overkill and I don't feel like dealing with the dead space and tie rod roll issues that I read about. Thanks for the confirmation!
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bustedback
I had the JCR one ton kit on my ZJ for a short time. I didn't like it for two reasons. First reason is clearance issues when turning full lock to the right, the tie rod would hit the track bar bolt. The second reason was the worst, severe death wobble and bump steer. I put the stock system back on with a Rough Country tie rod and the steering is a lot better. Still a little bump steer, but nothing like what I had with the JCR stuff.
I'm returning the RR 1ton setup and gonna go with the crown HD upgrade. Thanks for replying
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Beams1
I'm returning the RR 1ton setup and gonna go with the crown HD upgrade. Thanks for replying
There's Serious one ton steering, can be run under the knuckle as well.

I've never had a setup on my jeeps that didn't have a little bump steer, even stock. It's really down to what you can live with. On road most setups won't have much.
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 07:19 PM
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I run the one from serious offroad. I have the UTK Kit, no complaints. I dont currently plan on running anything bigger than a 33. However it's one of those components that id rather not have address again because I changed my mind and now I want to run bigger tires.
I don't know your budget but if you can afford it do it. I haven't heard anyone say they "man I should've gone with another brand"

Just a happy customers 2 cents
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 08:16 PM
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I have the rugged ridge steering on mine and I've never had a problem with it. Seems to be plenty strong for the wheeling I do
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 12:36 AM
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I believe the crown stuff is just relabled v8 zj parts it looks just like them to me.
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by W91
I run the one from serious offroad. I have the UTK Kit, no complaints. I dont currently plan on running anything bigger than a 33. However it's one of those components that id rather not have address again because I changed my mind and now I want to run bigger tires.
I don't know your budget but if you can afford it do it. I haven't heard anyone say they "man I should've gone with another brand"

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I just took a look at the Serious Offroad setup and it looks pretty legit. Ive just seen more bad reviews than good on the Rugged Ridge kit. Its probably a fine set-up but id rather not take the chance. Never looked at the serious kit though. I might have gone this route if I shopped around more. Thanks!
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 08:52 AM
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I have the Crown HD steering. Cant complain. its a good 1/4" thicker than the stock XJ linkage

XJ




ZJ- Crown HD




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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Bustedback
I had the JCR one ton kit on my ZJ for a short time. I didn't like it for two reasons. First reason is clearance issues when turning full lock to the right, the tie rod would hit the track bar bolt. The second reason was the worst, severe death wobble and bump steer.
I had the same problem with mine. So I ended going with synergy steering. Really happy with it.
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 03:18 PM
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I just installed this Heim steering setup this past weekend. Its made by B Lee's Off Road. So far it is working perfectly. Zero "dead spot" in the steering wheel. I replaced my Serious 1 ton setup with this kit. TRE kept wearing out giving play in the wheel. Drove me nuts. The biggest plus with the Heim kit you only have to drill pitman arm and knuckles out to 5/8". AND there is no modifications to the axle side sway bar mount. Just my 2 cents
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Originally Posted by lifted96xj.ricky
I just installed this Heim steering setup this past weekend. Its made by B Lee's Off Road. So far it is working perfectly. Zero "dead spot" in the steering wheel. I replaced my Serious 1 ton setup with this kit. TRE kept wearing out giving play in the wheel. Drove me nuts. The biggest plus with the Heim kit you only have to drill pitman arm and knuckles out to 5/8". AND there is no modifications to the axle side sway bar mount. Just my 2 cents
A good kit as well. Installed this on my friends TJ a couple weeks ago. Improved his steering as well, but it was stock before the upgrade.
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Originally Posted by lifted96xj.ricky
I just installed this Heim steering setup this past weekend. Its made by B Lee's Off Road. So far it is working perfectly. Zero "dead spot" in the steering wheel. I replaced my Serious 1 ton setup with this kit. TRE kept wearing out giving play in the wheel. Drove me nuts. The biggest plus with the Heim kit you only have to drill pitman arm and knuckles out to 5/8". AND there is no modifications to the axle side sway bar mount. Just my 2 cents
One thing I would do though because I'm super OCD, is use stover nuts on all the bolts, and run them with nut side down. I don't trust "lock" washers. ESP on steering.
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