No4x4Yet

Have you read post 10? If there's not torque split 50% of zero is zero.

arorton

if you're spinning your tires you still have torque..

wpwarren

You say you are an engineer, think about what you are saying. Why would the tire with less grip before you push on the brake not have less grip after you push on the brake provided that it has the same braking force. The engine providing more torque to spin the wheels has nothing to do with traction. You said that there is no power to the wheel with no traction. There is no more power to the tire ground contact surface after pushing on the brakes either. That engine torque is counteracted by a torque or moment applied to the brake rotors. And how on earth would a rear locker affect the front.

Aaron N.S.

no

cruiser54

Correct. There's torque and traction. 2 separate things. It's whether the torque is applied to the ground via traction.

arorton

clearly this guy is not an automotive engineer... lol i'm only in my freshman year as an automotive engineer and i could figure this one out...

wpwarren

You are confused. The engine produces torque. The torque produced by the engine goes through the transmission and through the transfer case. 50% goes to the front, 50 to the rear. The amount of torque that the ground exerts back on the tire (to move the vehicle forward) has no affect on how much torque the engine produces

cruiser54

I'm thinking.....

cruiser54

Well put.

arorton

This is the best way to think of it... Use Newton's laws of motion..

This is the optimized wording of Newton's 3rd law for this particular situation...

wpwarren

I am only an engineering student, but I have spun a lot of tires in my life. I think I have it figured out.

cruiser54

What did Newton know? Wasn't he the guy that shot the apple off of another guy's head with an arrow? LOL.

cruiser54

Sometimes, alot of times, real world experience trumps book learning. A combination of both, now that's golden.

CalstateXJ

Hey xj's. I was just searching on youtube ,for how to control the slip without lockers. They say to apply your breaks at the same time as u throttle up. So with that said. My thoughts would be to use the ebrake to control the slip in the rear. I think the ebrake only controls the rear. ?? Im going to read all your comments again to get a better understanding of what your saying. Thanks for the info
OC California.

wpwarren

I figure that I have broken enough things, now it is time to figure out how to make things that break less often and work better and are actually serviceable!