Modified XJ Cherokee Tech XJ (84-01)
All modified tech questions. If it modifies your XJ beyond stock parts ask it here.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

manual locking hubs

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-14-2011, 09:20 AM
  #1  
Seasoned Member
Thread Starter
 
scheetz_21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Michigan
Posts: 535
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 HO
Default manual locking hubs

why does no company make manual locking hubs for the xj?????? ive beento Napa, Car quest and few others no one can get em! why did Dana make that axle live all the time?
Old 07-14-2011, 09:48 AM
  #2  
CF Veteran
 
1plunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Apple Valley, MN
Posts: 2,763
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Well from what I understand, they only use manual locking hubs when you use an electronic switch to engage the 4wd, so if the switch fails you can still lock it in, however with the XJ it is a manual lever that goes directly to the transfer case, which leaves no point for factory manual locking hubs
Old 07-14-2011, 09:53 AM
  #3  
CF Veteran
 
BuckB91XJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Oak Harbor, WA.
Posts: 6,989
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 liter RENIX I-6, DIY Cold Air Intake, 2.5 FM Exhaust, 3 Core Radiator
Default

There are 2 company's that sell a manual locking hub kit for the Jeep XJ D30 that I know of, Warn and Mile Marker, as in the winch people. The problem is nobody has developed one that they will sell for a decent price.
Old 07-14-2011, 10:04 AM
  #4  
CF Veteran
 
SeriousOffroad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,952
Likes: 0
Received 15 Likes on 13 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

Rugged Ridge also.

Manual hub conversions are expensive and the warranties are generally only applicable to specific tires sizes. Usually 33" or smaller.
Old 07-14-2011, 10:05 AM
  #5  
CF Veteran
 
Gee oh Dee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 21,168
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Year: 1987
Engine: Check
Default

Moved from OEM to Advanced.
Old 07-14-2011, 10:40 AM
  #6  
CF Veteran
 
4.3L XJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Chico, CA
Posts: 6,551
Received 480 Likes on 412 Posts
Year: 1986
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.3L with headers and full 3" exhaust system
Default

Originally Posted by scheetz_21
why does no company make manual locking hubs for the xj?????? ive beento Napa, Car quest and few others no one can get em! why did Dana make that axle live all the time?
To answer your question, the elimination of hubs was so you could have shift on the fly 4WD without getting out of the vehicle, cheaper production costs with the unit bearing and conservation of tooling at the factory so you could use the same hubs with full time or part time vehicles. That being said, you are looking at a number of new parts, all of which are machined in smaller quantities. You might want to look into the Bronco II hubs. I am pretty sure they will convert over off that D30 front end. But be warned, those hubs and so forth are not the parts used on the early D30 which would take a real beating. They are not all that strong, and as Frank mentioned, should not be used on anything larger than a 33" tire.
Old 07-14-2011, 10:53 AM
  #7  
Member
 
Al's92xj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: oklahoma
Posts: 200
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6 HO
Post

I read an article in a magazine that shows the mile marker kit and it says "when the factory jeep unit bearing fails, the conversion kit offers ease of maintenance, a much smoother ride, better steering control, greater fuel economy, and longer axle and driveshaft life." And I beleive being able to disengage your hubs would allow you to have a spool in the front so when offroad you can have it basicly locked with the hubs also locked, but when on road disengage the hubs and it will drive with no effect of the spool. I beleive. If I had the money I would probably do the conversion. But I just remembered spools are not compatible with axles held in by a c clip like our dana 30's and 35's.

Last edited by Al's92xj; 07-14-2011 at 10:59 AM.
Old 07-14-2011, 12:36 PM
  #8  
CF Veteran
 
BuckB91XJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Oak Harbor, WA.
Posts: 6,989
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 liter RENIX I-6, DIY Cold Air Intake, 2.5 FM Exhaust, 3 Core Radiator
Default

XJ D30s are non "C" clip.
Old 07-14-2011, 01:29 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
excess650's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: here today gone tomorrow
Posts: 746
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Quadratec lists this

http://www.quadratec.com/products/16103_0010_07.htm

There may be more out there, but I didn't look after seeing the price.
Old 07-14-2011, 01:37 PM
  #10  
CF Veteran
 
PingPong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,740
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 87
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

MIle marker, Warn, and ruggged ridge make a kit to adapt locking hubs to your rig.

Reid Racing makes a knuckle to adapt the older style locking hubs as well. That means you will have to buy spindles, brake backing plates, bearings inner and outer, calipers and hub and rotor. For the amount of money it would cost to do this mod you are approaching the cost of swapping in a waggy d44 with a truss, and regearing. UNless you have all the "other part" to do the knuckle swap it really isnt worth it.
Old 07-14-2011, 01:49 PM
  #11  
Member
 
Al's92xj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: oklahoma
Posts: 200
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6 HO
Default

Originally Posted by BuckB91XJ
XJ D30s are non "C" clip.
Oh ok my bad. But thanks for that info.
Old 07-14-2011, 03:20 PM
  #12  
CF Veteran
 
Zack92MJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Dayton, Ohio
Posts: 2,460
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1992
Model: Comanche
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by 1plunk
Well from what I understand, they only use manual locking hubs when you use an electronic switch to engage the 4wd, so if the switch fails you can still lock it in, however with the XJ it is a manual lever that goes directly to the transfer case, which leaves no point for factory manual locking hubs


Yep. fords are like that
Old 07-14-2011, 08:41 PM
  #13  
Member
 
cjackd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Central Virginia
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

This kit uses full size hubs..and is a few hundred dollars less

http://www.emsoffroad.com/store/inde...4037a02aaa66eb
Old 07-15-2011, 12:17 AM
  #14  
CF Veteran
 
1plunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Apple Valley, MN
Posts: 2,763
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Originally Posted by Zacks98

Yep. fords are like that
That what I was referencing, but I really don't think xj's have a need for them
Old 07-15-2011, 07:11 AM
  #15  
CF Veteran
 
cdawall's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: EAFB, SD
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 HO
Default

Originally Posted by cjackd
This kit uses full size hubs..and is a few hundred dollars less

http://www.emsoffroad.com/store/inde...4037a02aaa66eb
Lol it would be cheaper to find an old waggy d44 with man hubs on it to swap in.

Sent by my pet chicken


Quick Reply: manual locking hubs



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:15 PM.