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Old May 22, 2011 | 09:24 AM
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what if you were to cut a set of bronco coils. they have a higher spring rate, and shouldn't bounce around as much.

you don't want to remove leafs, it will bounce around a lot.
maybe go with a set of comanche leafs and go spring under. i know they're longer, but haven't tried using them in a cherokee.
you will of course have to weld on a spring perch under the axle.
comanche has a different width between springs, or i'd say just get an mj axle.

keep it stiff so you loose body roll. it may ride like a tank, but it's not for comfort anyways.

and go with a stroker. you want to keep the stock 6 to keep them fooled.
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Old May 22, 2011 | 09:59 AM
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Cutting coils is not the main cause of the bouncing, matching with the proper shock will control the bouncing.
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Old May 22, 2011 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by N20jeep
Cutting coils is not the main cause of the bouncing, matching with the proper shock will control the bouncing.
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Old May 22, 2011 | 03:26 PM
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i am doing this to my 92 for a "car"... i am gonna try a cut bronco spring like above mentioned for the higher spring rate...also thinking ladder bar/ coil rear as i am gonna try to auto cross it and i want the ability to make the *** not so squishy and still get it lower
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Old May 22, 2011 | 04:51 PM
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check out some of my pics im kinda doing what you are. just got done with the drop
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Old May 22, 2011 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ericfx1984
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cutting coils is not always a problem... I personally would not do it

it really becomes a problem when the spring rate is progressive and cutting the coil removes the lower rate... then the shorter coil will also bottom out the shocks...

the issue is not the cut coils, the issue is all the other thing that are not addressed on the truck...
Even on fixed-rate springs, it presents a problem (by changing the spring rate, and not eliminating part of the range.)

It's just a cheap way to achieve a certain "look" - that compromises safety. And it's a flat dumb idea.
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Old May 22, 2011 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 5-90
Even on fixed-rate springs, it presents a problem (by changing the spring rate, and not eliminating part of the range.)

It's just a cheap way to achieve a certain "look" - that compromises safety. And it's a flat dumb idea.
based on what?

did you know back in the day on the late 80s BMW e28 cars, the guys would cut one coil off the front (lowering it around 1.25") and they would keep up with porsches in the corners...
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Old May 22, 2011 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ericfx1984

based on what?

did you know back in the day on the late 80s BMW e28 cars, the guys would cut one coil off the front (lowering it around 1.25") and they would keep up with porsches in the corners...
Sometimes you get lucky and it comes out to a good rate. Stiffer springs dont always translate into better handling.
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Old May 22, 2011 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoooper
Sometimes you get lucky and it comes out to a good rate. Stiffer springs dont always translate into better handling.
I know that
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Old May 22, 2011 | 07:50 PM
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You might want to talk to the guys with Team Petty Cash ... They're a Seattle based team competing in the 24 Hours of LeMons national racing series in a 2WD Jeep Cherokee we purchased for $200. They recently won 1st place in class.

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TeamPettyCash
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In addition to the info provided at the links above, I bet they'd answer more questions. There's a photo floating around somewhere showing the XJ passing a Miata on the course.
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Old May 22, 2011 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ericfx1984
based on what?

did you know back in the day on the late 80s BMW e28 cars, the guys would cut one coil off the front (lowering it around 1.25") and they would keep up with porsches in the corners...
Fairly uncommon - cutting the spring will always change the spring rate, because you're changing one of the critical factors that determines the spring rate.

I find it moderately unlikely that BMW springs could be cut and improve handling, but odder things have happened.

However, nine times out of then, if you cut the springs you've made a Superball. It's not worth the trouble.
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Old May 22, 2011 | 10:33 PM
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cutting the spring worked pretty good for me, when you cut it the rate just goes up, so it is stiffer my xj feels like driving a rough colbolt now lol
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 12:46 PM
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well i been wanting to make a sleeper 2wd for a while now. my intentions of doing so when i hit the lotto is to drop in a supra or skyline motor thus both being straight 6.
i have once herd a rumor that the non turbo supras used a aw4 tranny. who knows. jdm web sites you can pick up motors very cheap with everything needed
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 12:53 PM
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well i been wanting to make a sleeper 2wd for a while now. my intentions of doing so when i hit the lotto is to drop in a supra or skyline motor thus both being straight 6.
i have once herd a rumor that the non turbo supras used a aw4 tranny. who knows. jdm web sites you can pick up motors very cheap with everything needed
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by EastBeast
Borrow one of these and see how quick those kids think they are.
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/04/20/2...est-jeep-ever/
Other thing is, let them challenge you to a race. Then say ok, but i get to pick the course.....
jp magazine did a write up on these. they put it against a porsche,
here
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