Hey y'all I'm Tim. I just got myself a new to me 2000 xj sport c and it came with 33s on it...I already got a Rubicon express superflex 4.5in lift with complete rear leafs with drop pitman arm and Steering stabilizer kit ... I'm looking for lockers that I can run on the street coz it'll daily . I'm thinking basic lunchbox style is my best bet...I plan on building it right as time and money comes in so an axle swap is the big one.... I'm an auto tech of 21 years so the skill is here just not an off road guy yet.... also if possible would used ones be an option or a waste of money.... any info and advice is welcomed
I've seen those and heard some good things. I didn't wanna invest too much in these axles. Thanks for the reply. Also anywhere in town or close by the ne To go test my rig after I get it together? I bought it two weeks ago but it's just been sitting coz the former owner put a lil lift on it so the front axle is about 3 inches off center and you can't turn left at all really... my lift won't be here till mid January..... y'all know anywhere u can find used stuff? I'm not in Facebook lol
I'd recommend a switchable locker for the rear - more expensive, but safe in snow with none of the clicking or possible tire scrub of lunch box lockers and not much more cash than a Detroit locker. This is an OX locker - cable actuated with the convince of electric solenoid activation. The entire system is about 1k less than an ARB air locker. Best locker one can put on an XJ! electric solenoid activation
I know that's the way to go but I don't wanna invest that much if I'm doing an axle swap in the future. I'm a damn good driver plus we don't get much snow here lol. I'm ready to get out but not too excited about really only being 2wd in 4 low lol. I'm very experienced in building rc rock crawlers and know all about open diffs and the like. I guess what I'm asking is what's the cheapest way to lock the axles without Lincoln locking it haha.
A good compromise would be a front lunchbox and a rear selectable.
I was looking into putting a Powertrax No-Slip in the front and an Eaton E-locker in the rear. If it's a daily, I highly recommend the no-slip. It doesn't hardly make any clicking/ratcheting. I also don't recommend daily driving with a rear lunchbox. They're cheaper, but the aggravation of driving with an automatically locked rear isn't worth it to me. The E-locker means you won't need on board air. I decided to leave mine open because I'll soon be putting front/rear D44 axles in mine, so I'm not wasting the effort or money on the current ones.
That's looking like what ima do. I mine as well weld it up and roll it till the axle swap. The automatic locker can cause abrupt lane changes from what I've read
If you have a Chrysler 8-1/4 there will be no need to swap it unless you're in to spending a lot of cash on a 5" to 8" lift and huge tires that would require a diff up-grade as well as a trailer to hall your XJ. A Dana 35 isn't worth rebuilding and should be replaced with a moderate lift. Your Dana 30 up front will take up to a 33" tire if you upgrade the axels to chrome molly. If you are a good driver just wheel with open diffs until you can afford to get good hardware. Eaton dosen't make an E-locker for a Chrysler 8-1/4
Eaton dosen't make an E-locker for a Chrysler 8-1/4
Yeah that's right. I get confused with the many projects I have going on all the time.
Definitely don't waste money on the D35. I wouldn't even weld it. Just roll with a lunchbox front and open rear if it's a 35. At a minimum, you'll have 3 wheel drive at that point.
That's looking like what ima do. I mine as well weld it up and roll it till the axle swap. The automatic locker can cause abrupt lane changes from what I've read
Some have said that. One thing that affects that is whether or not you have an auto tranny.
How much are you thinking your going to drive it. Are you going run trails or gravel roads.
Many seem afrad of non selectable Detroit and grizzly type lockers but I notice almost all of those afraid have no exsperince with any type of locker.
If its more a daily that rarely sees more than gravel rds then bumpers winch and recovery gear is probly a better investment. No matter how capable the rig is the one constant is recovery gear is always needed
Get the gear wheel the axles as they are for now then upgrade change as your wants and needs evolve.
go Explorer and find the trails
Being a tech gear set up may come easy for you? Id wait to do anything axlewise untill you decide on gears.
Definitely dont let these guys scare you into selectable lockers, do hundreds of hours of research outside of the forumns talk to local people call shops that build rigs. Decide for yourself.
For what its worth im on 4.88s grizzly locker front welded 8.25 (welded 35 first)my jeep is more a trail rig but I often find im running 50-80 miles sometimes on both ends of a trail ride. The thing drives on the street in a straight line incredbly well runs the freeway with one Finger on 35s.
Welded rear doesnt Luke to turn tight on the pavement. If I had the money id toss a Detroit or grizzly in it.
Just have fun and remember its tons more fun for me to spend your money than mine.
I have Spartan lockers in both axles, handles great on the street and doesn't cause abrupt lane changes, make you slide off of the road in rain or snow, make a bunch of noise on the street or any of the other BS you read about. They do great on and off road and I highly reccomend them.
That's looking like what ima do. I mine as well weld it up and roll it till the axle swap. The automatic locker can cause abrupt lane changes from what I've read
Yeah, lots of people claim that, but most have never even had one in their vehicle...so how do they know ?
I've run auto lockers in several vehicles, from a 175 hp Jeep Cherokee on 28" mud tires to a 450 hp Dodge Ramcharger on 40" ground Hawgs and TSLs, with no problems at all, and most of the driving was on paved roads.
Only time, other than clicking during turns or tire chirping when you give it power during a sharp turn, that I've noticed anything even remotely weird, is if you are on an extremely slick or tractionless surface in 2wd, like ice or wet clay, the vehicle will want to go the way the rear axle is aligned, and you WILL have to use 4wd to get it to go where you want it to.
I had to claw my way down the road on some very slick red clay once, cuz I only had a limited slip up front, and both front tires weren't pulling hard enough to overcome the locked rear axle. Had the same thing happen once in deep snow with ice underneath......
It was not a real problem, I just went down the road crabbing for a bit till the front end could straighten things out.....
As long as you are aware of how these things work, you should be fine, so make sure anyone who may drive it KNOWS this. I say this, as I have actually chirped a tire in my 96 jeep on an off ramp doing 45 mph......if someone isn't aware of the locker and how it works, it may scare them if that happened.