Lift vs articulation arguement
I have a RocKrawler long arm setup Front and rear on my Jeep. The same long arm kit will be limited to the shock length. My lift kit is an 8 inch spring, with a 3 inch spacer on 35s. Out here in Arizona, it is street legal, and to have as much flex as possible, I run my down travel at ride height at 4 inches of down travel. Here is what I can produce.


Articulation is based on the shock used as a limiting strap. The correct shock legnth will alter the flex. You can either make the tire suck up into the fender well... OR droop like I have mine. There are a few reasons here in Arizona why I have my Jeep lifted like this. But this isn't going to work in certain Eastern states due to the different terrain.
Both of the rockers are beat up, and all 8 of those rock lights were smashed in not too long ago. I bashed in the rockers, and now I have a good reason to boatside my Jeep. Here is what they look like.




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Ok so what does droop mean exactaly?
I'm running 4.5 ( pieced together) on 33's, any advice/suggestions on what I should do since I need to change out the front suspension?
I'm running 4.5 ( pieced together) on 33's, any advice/suggestions on what I should do since I need to change out the front suspension?
Droop is movement of the axle or tire downward (Down Travel)
Stuffing a tire refers to the upward movement. (Up Travel)
Droop is controlled by the shortest component connected to either side of the axle. Often times it's limited my shocks or brakelines that are too short for the application. limiting straps are always a wise addition to any rig that has excessive down travel.
Up Travel is limited by the tallest component. This should be a properly installed bump stop. Shocks that are too long will act as bump stops and they will not last very long doing so.
Excessive droop may look good in a poser pics but it really serves no purpose. Once a coil unseats you've pretty much used up all of the useful articulation since you're now relying on the unsprung weight of the axle to maintain tire contact with the ground. Without additional weight from the rig, that wheel looses traction.
Keeping all four wheels firmly planted provides greater control and traction.
Stuffing a tire refers to the upward movement. (Up Travel)
Droop is controlled by the shortest component connected to either side of the axle. Often times it's limited my shocks or brakelines that are too short for the application. limiting straps are always a wise addition to any rig that has excessive down travel.
Up Travel is limited by the tallest component. This should be a properly installed bump stop. Shocks that are too long will act as bump stops and they will not last very long doing so.
Excessive droop may look good in a poser pics but it really serves no purpose. Once a coil unseats you've pretty much used up all of the useful articulation since you're now relying on the unsprung weight of the axle to maintain tire contact with the ground. Without additional weight from the rig, that wheel looses traction.
Keeping all four wheels firmly planted provides greater control and traction.
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What you dont see around here much is suck down winches. They are tied to your axle and gives you the ability to compress your suspension to get weight on the tires you need. I see alot of LCOG rigs run them to manipulate the suspension
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
I can unseat and walk away with a coil with my OEM CAs in their OEM location.
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