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Old 05-02-2013, 01:12 PM
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im installing a full SYE into my np231 on my 98xj w/ c8.25 rear axle..i also plan on using a stock front driveshaft (double cardan) from a auto 4.0 XJ as the rear driveshaft after the sye install. now iv had a couple people ask me if im going to be installin a h&t sye since im gonna be using a stock XJ ds..why? does a stock xj front ds not work with a full SYE? iv got a RE3.5 lift installed and plan on doing my SYE saturday
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Yes, it'll work with both. The Tom Woods double cardan shaft that I run looks EXACTLY like a stock shaft with nicer parts.

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Yes, it'll work with both. The Tom Woods double cardan shaft that I run looks EXACTLY like a stock shaft with nicer parts.
What does that mean "nicer parts"? Are they stronger? Or just new?
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What does that mean "nicer parts"? Are they stronger? Or just new?
both, lol, i wish i had a woody but there expensive and if i can get away with dual front dss, i see it as a win win cause i can have like 4 and be able to replace any that broke. thankyou Lowrange
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im installing a full SYE into my np231 on my 98xj w/ c8.25 rear axle..i also plan on using a stock front driveshaft (double cardan) from a auto 4.0 XJ as the rear driveshaft after the sye install. now iv had a couple people ask me if im going to be installin a h&t sye since im gonna be using a stock XJ ds..why? does a stock xj front ds not work with a full SYE? iv got a RE3.5 lift installed and plan on doing my SYE saturday
I used a stock front DS. But because I have a 5-speed tranny it was too short so I had it lengthen to fit (and all new u-joints installed and rebalanced) so total was about the same as a Tom Woods, but shipping to Hawaii would have killed me, and local shop did it all in 1 day!
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Originally Posted by ptreaster
I used a stock front DS. But because I have a 5-speed tranny it was too short so I had it lengthen to fit (and all new u-joints installed and rebalanced) so total was about the same as a Tom Woods, but shipping to Hawaii would have killed me, and local shop did it all in 1 day!
nice, i have an AW4 tranny so i should be good. honestly as of right now im gettting vibes but im not sure if its comming cause of the slip yoke or because my rear pinion angle
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Got my SYE & Driveshaft from Jeep Hut on here in Vendor section. The Drive shaft is a Tatton or Tallon (don't remember). Their pricing was really good & it's a lot stronger & HD versus running a Stock fornt driave shaft. I know they are strong, but they look really weak...
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Originally Posted by ptreaster
I used a stock front DS. But because I have a 5-speed tranny it was too short so I had it lengthen to fit (and all new u-joints installed and rebalanced) so total was about the same as a Tom Woods, but shipping to Hawaii would have killed me, and local shop did it all in 1 day!
you could've also found a zj driveshaft because they are longer. there used to be a list floating around here somewhere..


bingo. I'm pretty sure those are front shaft lengths

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XJ 87/88 2.5 Automatic 27.950 53003912
XJ 89/93 2.5 Automatic 27.970 53005540
XJ 89/01 2.5 Manual 25.310 53005541
XJ 89/01 4.0 Automatic 30.660 53005542
XJ 89/01 4.0 Manual 29.250 53005543
XJ 89/00 4.0 Manual 27.080 Export 53005544
XJ 89/00 4.0 Automatic 28.620 Export 53005545
XJ 87/88 4.0 Automatic Export 53005260 *
XJ 95/01 Diesel 27.640 Export 52098208

ZJ 1993 4.0 Automatic 30.530 52098341
ZJ 93/95 5.2 Automatic 32.870 w/o CV 53008427
ZJ 94/95 5.2 A500 30.625 w/o CV 52087805
ZJ 94/95 4.0 A500 w/o CV 52098790
ZJ 93/96 4.0 Manual 52098344
ZJ 93/96 4.0, 5.2 31.875 w/ 231, 242 52087805
ZJ 93/95 4.0 Manual 30.000 w/231 52088090
ZJ 93/96 5.2 33.000 w/ 231 53008427
ZJ 96/98 5.2, 5.9 31.250 w/ 249 & Model 30 52098379
ZJ 1996 5.2 Automatic 32.875 w/ 249 & Model 30 52098501
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ZJ 96/97 4.0 Automatic 31.250 52098850
ZJ 1996 5.2 Automatic 30.750 w/ 249 & Model 30 52099246
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so how much inches over stock will the driveshaft be if you use the front from an auto, along with an SYE?
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Originally Posted by ptreaster
What does that mean "nicer parts"? Are they stronger? Or just new?
The TW shafts are much beefier when beside a stock shaft.

I've broken 4 joints in stock shafts and 1 joint in a TWs shaft. When the stock shaft joints break it takes out the ears and the shaft is done. When the joint in the TWs shaft broke I just put a new joint in it on the trail and kept rolling. Plus, their warranty is awesome.
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Originally Posted by codysmith123456
so how much inches over stock will the driveshaft be if you use the front from an auto, along with an SYE?
length difference between a stock front and read ds? not exactly sure. but the main reason stock front driveshafts are used in the rear is because its alot cheaper than a new aftermarket shaft and the fact that its a 2piece double cardan driveshaft unlike the stock rear thats fixed
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Buy a TW or Like brand shaft, the front DS was never meant to be a rear shaft let alone one to propel a jeep with larger than stock tires on it. avoid the problems in the future and get something thats meant to do the job.

If you do cheap and half *** things you should only expect cheap and half *** results...
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Originally Posted by Stlavguy
Buy a TW or Like brand shaft, the front DS was never meant to be a rear shaft let alone one to propel a jeep with larger than stock tires on it. avoid the problems in the future and get something thats meant to do the job.

If you do cheap and half *** things you should only expect cheap and half *** results...
While I would usually completely agree with this statement, in many other situations, I feel that using a stock front driveshaft for the rear with an SYE is acceptable. Yes, an aftermarket shaft would be far superior. Yes, I suggest you get one. But if money is tight and you need a shaft then a front shaft will work just fine. It'll see the same forces that it sees up front.

I ran a stock shaft up front for a long, long time before the Tom Woods shaft went in.
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Originally Posted by Stlavguy
Buy a TW or Like brand shaft, the front DS was never meant to be a rear shaft let alone one to propel a jeep with larger than stock tires on it. avoid the problems in the future and get something thats meant to do the job.

If you do cheap and half *** things you should only expect cheap and half *** results...
yeah just go around spending 7x more money than you need to on a part because anything less is half assing it
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Originally Posted by Atmos
yeah just go around spending 7x more money than you need to on a part because anything less is half assing it
x2, smh


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