lets all clear this up...
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lets all clear this up...
im installing a full SYE into my np231 on my 98xj w/ c8.25 rear axle..i also plan on using a stock front driveshaft (double cardan) from a auto 4.0 XJ as the rear driveshaft after the sye install. now iv had a couple people ask me if im going to be installin a h&t sye since im gonna be using a stock XJ ds..why?
does a stock xj front ds not work with a full SYE?
iv got a RE3.5 lift installed and plan on doing my SYE saturday
does a stock xj front ds not work with a full SYE? iv got a RE3.5 lift installed and plan on doing my SYE saturday
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From: +34° 25' 35.67", -81° 21' 12.04"
Year: 1993
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Yes, it'll work with both. The Tom Woods double cardan shaft that I run looks EXACTLY like a stock shaft with nicer parts.
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im installing a full SYE into my np231 on my 98xj w/ c8.25 rear axle..i also plan on using a stock front driveshaft (double cardan) from a auto 4.0 XJ as the rear driveshaft after the sye install. now iv had a couple people ask me if im going to be installin a h&t sye since im gonna be using a stock XJ ds..why? does a stock xj front ds not work with a full SYE? iv got a RE3.5 lift installed and plan on doing my SYE saturday
does a stock xj front ds not work with a full SYE? iv got a RE3.5 lift installed and plan on doing my SYE saturday
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I used a stock front DS. But because I have a 5-speed tranny it was too short so I had it lengthen to fit (and all new u-joints installed and rebalanced) so total was about the same as a Tom Woods, but shipping to Hawaii would have killed me, and local shop did it all in 1 day!
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Got my SYE & Driveshaft from Jeep Hut on here in Vendor section. The Drive shaft is a Tatton or Tallon (don't remember). Their pricing was really good & it's a lot stronger & HD versus running a Stock fornt driave shaft. I know they are strong, but they look really weak...
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I used a stock front DS. But because I have a 5-speed tranny it was too short so I had it lengthen to fit (and all new u-joints installed and rebalanced) so total was about the same as a Tom Woods, but shipping to Hawaii would have killed me, and local shop did it all in 1 day!
bingo. I'm pretty sure those are front shaft lengths
What size do you need?
XJ 87/88 2.5 Automatic 27.950 53003912
XJ 89/93 2.5 Automatic 27.970 53005540
XJ 89/01 2.5 Manual 25.310 53005541
XJ 89/01 4.0 Automatic 30.660 53005542
XJ 89/01 4.0 Manual 29.250 53005543
XJ 89/00 4.0 Manual 27.080 Export 53005544
XJ 89/00 4.0 Automatic 28.620 Export 53005545
XJ 87/88 4.0 Automatic Export 53005260 *
XJ 95/01 Diesel 27.640 Export 52098208
ZJ 1993 4.0 Automatic 30.530 52098341
ZJ 93/95 5.2 Automatic 32.870 w/o CV 53008427
ZJ 94/95 5.2 A500 30.625 w/o CV 52087805
ZJ 94/95 4.0 A500 w/o CV 52098790
ZJ 93/96 4.0 Manual 52098344
ZJ 93/96 4.0, 5.2 31.875 w/ 231, 242 52087805
ZJ 93/95 4.0 Manual 30.000 w/231 52088090
ZJ 93/96 5.2 33.000 w/ 231 53008427
ZJ 96/98 5.2, 5.9 31.250 w/ 249 & Model 30 52098379
ZJ 1996 5.2 Automatic 32.875 w/ 249 & Model 30 52098501
ZJ 96/98 4.0 33.000 w/ 242 52098707
ZJ 96/97 4.0 Automatic 31.250 52098850
ZJ 1996 5.2 Automatic 30.750 w/ 249 & Model 30 52099246
ZJ 96/98 4.0 33.500 w/ 249 52099260
XJ 87/88 2.5 Automatic 27.950 53003912
XJ 89/93 2.5 Automatic 27.970 53005540
XJ 89/01 2.5 Manual 25.310 53005541
XJ 89/01 4.0 Automatic 30.660 53005542
XJ 89/01 4.0 Manual 29.250 53005543
XJ 89/00 4.0 Manual 27.080 Export 53005544
XJ 89/00 4.0 Automatic 28.620 Export 53005545
XJ 87/88 4.0 Automatic Export 53005260 *
XJ 95/01 Diesel 27.640 Export 52098208
ZJ 1993 4.0 Automatic 30.530 52098341
ZJ 93/95 5.2 Automatic 32.870 w/o CV 53008427
ZJ 94/95 5.2 A500 30.625 w/o CV 52087805
ZJ 94/95 4.0 A500 w/o CV 52098790
ZJ 93/96 4.0 Manual 52098344
ZJ 93/96 4.0, 5.2 31.875 w/ 231, 242 52087805
ZJ 93/95 4.0 Manual 30.000 w/231 52088090
ZJ 93/96 5.2 33.000 w/ 231 53008427
ZJ 96/98 5.2, 5.9 31.250 w/ 249 & Model 30 52098379
ZJ 1996 5.2 Automatic 32.875 w/ 249 & Model 30 52098501
ZJ 96/98 4.0 33.000 w/ 242 52098707
ZJ 96/97 4.0 Automatic 31.250 52098850
ZJ 1996 5.2 Automatic 30.750 w/ 249 & Model 30 52099246
ZJ 96/98 4.0 33.500 w/ 249 52099260
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From: +34° 25' 35.67", -81° 21' 12.04"
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The TW shafts are much beefier when beside a stock shaft.
I've broken 4 joints in stock shafts and 1 joint in a TWs shaft. When the stock shaft joints break it takes out the ears and the shaft is done. When the joint in the TWs shaft broke I just put a new joint in it on the trail and kept rolling. Plus, their warranty is awesome.
I've broken 4 joints in stock shafts and 1 joint in a TWs shaft. When the stock shaft joints break it takes out the ears and the shaft is done. When the joint in the TWs shaft broke I just put a new joint in it on the trail and kept rolling. Plus, their warranty is awesome.
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length difference between a stock front and read ds? not exactly sure. but the main reason stock front driveshafts are used in the rear is because its alot cheaper than a new aftermarket shaft and the fact that its a 2piece double cardan driveshaft unlike the stock rear thats fixed
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Buy a TW or Like brand shaft, the front DS was never meant to be a rear shaft let alone one to propel a jeep with larger than stock tires on it. avoid the problems in the future and get something thats meant to do the job.
If you do cheap and half *** things you should only expect cheap and half *** results...
If you do cheap and half *** things you should only expect cheap and half *** results...
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From: +34° 25' 35.67", -81° 21' 12.04"
Year: 1993
Engine: 4.0
Buy a TW or Like brand shaft, the front DS was never meant to be a rear shaft let alone one to propel a jeep with larger than stock tires on it. avoid the problems in the future and get something thats meant to do the job.
If you do cheap and half *** things you should only expect cheap and half *** results...
If you do cheap and half *** things you should only expect cheap and half *** results...
I ran a stock shaft up front for a long, long time before the Tom Woods shaft went in.
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From: City of Trees, CA
Year: 93 2 door
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Buy a TW or Like brand shaft, the front DS was never meant to be a rear shaft let alone one to propel a jeep with larger than stock tires on it. avoid the problems in the future and get something thats meant to do the job.
If you do cheap and half *** things you should only expect cheap and half *** results...
If you do cheap and half *** things you should only expect cheap and half *** results...
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