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Putting aside my sciencey stuff and my personal tastes, if FOG lights are what the OP wants to do with an 84-96 front end, I'd try to mount them to the bottom of the bumper or, size permitting, see about mounting them directly to the back of the air dam if that's still present.
If flood or spot lights are actually want the OP wants, I'd go top of bumper or on roof.
For any kind of light, I've personally even considered mounting them INSIDE the stock bumper (size permitting of course) since the stock bumper is just hollow anyway.
If just plain better light is what the OP wants, nothing beats a relay harness and a quality set of aftermarket H4 housings with quality bulbs.
P.S. I've never seen anything to indicate that yellow lights are detrimental in any way. The most negative thing is that it's obviously a filter that you're using which is reducing your light's effective output by filtering-out the blues. I agree with you that they look great on the Jeep, and if they're bright enough for you, leave them yellow/amber.
Seriously, I put on hella e code h4 housings with hella 55/100 bulbs and built a relay setup and I can tell you, my headlights are amazingly brighter than stock. I had a set of led headlamps on the jeep for about a week that were super bright, but they had no cutoff. I never got flashed by oncoming traffic but after 2 people had to adjust their rear view mirrors at stop lights, I sent them back. I'm not gonna be that jerk who thinks the road is his. If it were a trail rig, I'd no doubt run those lights. $100 shipped and bright as hell.
Ordered a pair of the Nilight 18w 6-led spot beam lights and mounted them under the bumper. There happened to be a convenient empty (and factory) hole on the driver side of the bumper, corresponding to one of the two vacuum reservoir bolts on the passenger side. Pretty straightforward install, just positive and negative. I went one step further though and installed a relay along with a switch and wired the switch to the headlight switch, so they will come on and shut off dependent on the headlight switch.
I ordered some amber covers for them as well, these pictures are about 20 mins old but I can see already from standing off angle that they are going to blind whoever comes near me at night. Hopefully the covers tone down the beam a bit.
And yes, guys, they are mounted below the headlights, which qualifies them as fog lights! Had to laugh at the nerd war I started... But seriously, thank you all for your input!!
Looks good. As far as lighting goes, as long as it illuminates the road better, then I am all for it. I don;t care what my "eyes perceive or my brain perceives" or blah blah blah. If I can see more, then its working.
Looks good. As far as lighting goes, as long as it illuminates the road better, then I am all for it. I don;t care what my "eyes perceive or my brain perceives" or blah blah blah. If I can see more, then its working.
Yeah, science and the objectivity it provides: who needs that?
I don't need it. I'll keep using what works for me. If I can put more light on the road and not blind oncoming traffic, then more power to me. More light in the right place at night and it is an advantage, not a disadvantage.
You may be more experienced than myself on how these LED's illuminate, but do you mind the less experienced asking a question without your BS response that does nothing but attempt to criticise another member?
Again, I'd like to see for myself the cutoff.. or lack thereof.
I'm thinking of installing some off-road lights that potentially could be used as driving and/or fog lights if I can find and install some sort of dual intensity lights for both on and off-road.
There are high and low dual function LED lights. I would need to look at their specifications to determine what sort of dual purpose they can be used for.
I would prefer to install any auxiliary lights inside the bumper and not above or below.
I don't think it would be very difficult to cut into a thin stock bumper, closer to the middle or outward toward the bumper ends.
Next time I get out in the dark I will aim it at a wall and take some pictures.
These things are brighter than the stock 6054 halogen bulbs, at least in a peaky sort of way. They are very focused (as expected, being the "spot" version) and where they are they fill in the hole my regular low beams leave right in front of the vehicle. Granted, my stock lights might be adjusted too high.
Fun fact, that bumper on the black jeep ^ is the stock bumper. That was a custom fab stinger that he bought somewhere and mounted to the stock bumper. I think it looks good... But then again I am debating replacing my stock bumper since it already endured the PO hitting multiple snowbanks. Another topic for another day!
While I agree that LEDs are much brighter, I suspect that the "soft" lighting of a halogen or incandescent bulb would be better in fog conditions.
Has anyone run the Hella 500 fog-light variant specifically? I am looking for something to use this winter while bombing up/down Interstate 70 in full blizzard conditions.
I have bi-xenon HID's which are pretty bright off-road, but they are 5000K and I feel that some driving/fog style lights might be better during blizzard and extreme low-vis conditions.
I put Hella E-codes in with upgraded harness's and ran PIAA bulbs for a while but honestly wasn't that impressed with the output. I've recently put in H4 LED bulbs which was a super tight fit but the output is nice. I just need to get them aimed better. The cutoff is pretty sharp which is nice for sitting behind people in traffic without lighting up their entire interior.
I flush mounted a set of Rigid lights into my grille. Too high to be fog lights, but they work great as highway lights to clear the lane of slower drivers. I also have fog lights in the factory location.
Had to laugh at the nerd war I started... But seriously, thank you all for your input!!
