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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 07:48 PM
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What's up fellas,

This is my first post and my first XJ. Just bought a 1991 Jeep Cherokee Limited but, the seller, in an effort to (my assumption) make his vehicle more appealing after sitting on craiglist for over a month on a stock vehicle he put 4.5 inch RE springs and some blocks in the back.

First off, I was going to max out at a 3.5 inch lift w/ 33's (I like low COG), but 4.5 is okay. Because of the springs the old track bar does not fit so I had to grab a cheap RE1600 track bar off of CL so I could make the car drivable (death wobble). My question is should I scrap the suspension and just buy a 3.5" or should I use what I have (springs and track bar) and piece together something even better than an RE 3.5 inch lift KIT?

Also what about an SYE, how soon can I damage something? Do I need to get one yesterday? I will only be on roads for the next couple of months while I get this thing up to snuff and this is NOT a DD.

And I have a bad u-joint, is there a particular brand I should go with as I have read that the stock ujoints are weak to begin with? Will replacing the ujoint with something beefier create reveal other weaknesses?

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Jerry

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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 08:23 PM
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If you are gonna wheel it at all ditch the blocks, replace with springs, and get an sye. Spicer makes good u-joints, get the greaseable ones. Welcome to the sickness...
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 09:05 PM
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definately gonna ditch the blocks, just need to figure out if I am going to buy a kit or piece together something around the 4.5 re springs and the re track bar. need to do some research because I am not sure what each component does and what needs to be changed and modded for best performance. This will be a hunting, fishing, camping and shooting rig, the only time it will see pavement is on the way to the trail, other than that it will sit at home.
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 09:10 PM
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Pretty much what was mentioned above...

What is your budget?

If it was me, I would set a reasonable budget, sell the kit on there now, and use the money to help buy what you really want.
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ChillyWilly72
definately gonna ditch the blocks, just need to figure out if I am going to buy a kit or piece together something around the 4.5 re springs and the re track bar. need to do some research because I am not sure what each component does and what needs to be changed and modded for best performance. This will be a hunting, fishing, camping and shooting rig, the only time it will see pavement is on the way to the trail, other than that it will sit at home.
If you just need to get it to the trail and back, and you are not looking for trying to get into offroading, or to test the limits of the vehicle, I'd just piece something together, new shocks, brake lines, rear springs, TC drop if you have vibes (or SYE if you have the money) and call it a day.

If you want to get into offroading, go with a long arm upgrade kit in addition to what I mentioned above. Clayton Offroad, Iron Rock Offroad, and Rubicon Express are usually considered to be the best for those. Another thing to look into is some type of locker, 1 ton steering, skid plates and other armor, regearing your axles... the list goes on
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 09:49 PM
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did the po put aftermarket lower front control arms on?
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 10:50 PM
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Spicer U- joints are good but the greaseable ones are actually weaker. Greaseable ones have the advantage of being able pushing any water out that gets in though. Mostly just depends what kind of load you intend to put on them, highway-grease, rock crawling-no grease.
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by stang65
did the po put aftermarket lower front control arms on?
Nope, basically its just a half assed job (not that im mad just not done right), imho but i did see some re ctrl arms on cl for cheap.

As far as use, i live near the rubicon and fordyce, so i will try some stuff but im not going nuts, mostly unkept trails to fishing and hunting spots, but being that i will be with my little boy i want get out of anywhere strength.

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Old Sep 9, 2013 | 12:07 AM
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holycaveman is an expert on blocks, he'll probably give you some advice.
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Originally Posted by ChillyWilly72
Nope, basically its just a half assed job (not that im mad just not done right), imho but i did see some re ctrl arms on cl for cheap.

As far as use, i live near the rubicon and fordyce, so i will try some stuff but im not going nuts, mostly unkept trails to fishing and hunting spots, but being that i will be with my little boy i want get out of anywhere strength.
As far as strength goes, a bolt on long arm, and a set of adjustable short arms won't be much different. A set of long arms will get you over larger obstacles easier though.

If you want to get out unscathed, you need recovery tools and armor. Tow hooks, skid plates on top of skid plates, winches, bumpers, good tires with beadlocks and rock rings... definitely 1, possible 2 spare tires, roll cage, frame stiffeners etc...
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