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Old Feb 4, 2011 | 11:22 PM
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Looking to max out the flex of my 87 XJ daily driver without a high lift. Would like to have it handle great off road, not looking to rock crawl.
I read some great writeups in the forum on lifts, but I am thinking of keeping the jeep close to stock height maybe 2" lift, for ride quality and handling on the road.
I am first looking at quick disconnects and longer brake lines, already removed rear swaybar.
What works good to max out the flex, longer shocks, longer control arms, taller tires, etc.?
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Old Feb 4, 2011 | 11:24 PM
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Cut your fenders.
run larger tires to get clearance under your pumpkin's
bump stop accordingly
run the longest shocks you can
extend your brake lines
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Old Feb 4, 2011 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 96_xj
Cut your fenders.
run larger tires to get clearance under your pumpkin's
bump stop accordingly
run the longest shocks you can
extend your brake lines
there you go
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Old Feb 4, 2011 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 87xjDave
Looking to max out the flex of my 87 XJ daily driver without a high lift. Would like to have it handle great off road, not looking to rock crawl.
I read some great writeups in the forum on lifts, but I am thinking of keeping the jeep close to stock height maybe 2" lift, for ride quality and handling on the road.
I am first looking at quick disconnects and longer brake lines, already removed rear swaybar.
What works good to max out the flex, longer shocks, longer control arms, taller tires, etc.?
Yea to maximize flex you can cut fenders and run bigger tires, or install a 2 inch budget lift and you will then get even more flex, also bumb stops are kind a important because if you over compress the leaf or front coils you can damage them an then your jeep will sag
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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 06:26 AM
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forgot one of the most important things. Disco the swaybars!
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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 07:07 AM
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Thank you for the info.
I am thinking JKS disconnects up front and 95 YJ brake lines, and 96 Dakota brake line in the rear.
Do you know of a shock which is longer that others are running to max out the flex on a stock ride height?
Also do you know if there is a problem with control arms limiting the flex on an 87 XJ?
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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 07:18 AM
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control arms may limit a bit, buy you won't notice it at 2 inches.

get some wider rims with as little backspacing as you can get away with legally. something close to 3.75.

don't bumpstop too much, if any. that just limits your flex.
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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 08:34 AM
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control arms may limit a bit, buy you won't notice it at 2 inches.

get some wider rims with as little backspacing as you can get away with legally. something close to 3.75.

don't bumpstop too much, if any. that just limits your flex.
Sounds good.
Are you suggesting I should stay with the factory bump stops for up to 2" lift?
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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 08:51 AM
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https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/low...ks-tips-32980/
Great read right here
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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 09:03 AM
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sure, i have no bumpstops in the rear, and only have stock bumpstops in the front, but at 8 inches, i don't think they will even come close to touching anyways.

if it rubbed, i cut. i want all the suspension movement i can get. that's why we spend the money on our lifts.
i don't rub anywhere.
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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 09:42 AM
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trim trim trim... look at your factory track bar... when in full flex chances are its pushed all the way up and making contact with the bracket... trim the top of the bracket till it doesnt make contact... this also happens with the axle end of the D30's control arms... they will make contact with the stock brackets... trim these brackets as well... but make sure not to go to far and close to your shock mount bolts... there is a book i just picked up yesterday at Barns&Noble... High performance jeep cherokee XJ builders guide 1984-2001... SA109... ISBN 978-1-932494-14-3... i highly recommend to anyone to buy and read this book... Ive learned a lot off the internet but tips like i mentioned above ive never read on the internet before... it explains anything from what the cherokees came with factory to the different styles of suspensions and TONS of pics which are great for ideas...
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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 09:46 AM
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to be honest i installed the jks discos on a rig....not worth the money they are over complicated swaybar links and they didn't give a place to hang them up...i have rough country's quick discos on mine they were $50 and gave a nice bracket to hang them on, but with little to no lift i don't know the options you will have
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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 09:57 AM
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If you want to run big tires on little to no lift, your main articulation Is going to be droop. To achieve Max droop, youll want to get long shocks that won't be the limiting strap of your suspension. This usually means limiting your uptravel a lot to keep from bottoming out the shock. Stock trackbar and the stock steering wont get much droop either so those should be replaced too. Stock control arms are fine but the boxy design means they will hit the shock mounts eventually, so tubular ones with an offset or bend are preffered.
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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 10:20 AM
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Does anyone have a recommendation on longer shocks to run on stock lift height to max out flex/drop?
Brand, size, etc.?
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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 11:39 AM
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there is a book i just picked up yesterday at Barns&Noble... High performance jeep cherokee XJ builders guide 1984-2001...


x2 on the book its a real good read!!
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