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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:17 PM
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i got a question for yall since u seem to know a hell of alot more then me about suspension set ups im puttin 6.5 inch rustys off road leafs inthe rear of mine and 1 inch shackles what are ways to go about setting it up correctly and trying to limit axle wrap not to steal the thread or anything im just curiuse
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:19 PM
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Agreed
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by john deer green
i got a question for yall since u seem to know a hell of alot more then me about suspension set ups im puttin 6.5 inch rustys off road leafs inthe rear of mine and 1 inch shackles what are ways to go about setting it up correctly and trying to limit axle wrap not to steal the thread or anything im just curiuse
Make sure you're shackle angle is near 45 degrees at ride height. This may require relocation brackets.

And if you are having axle wrap issues. Then an anti wrap bar will help that. They can be made relatively simple and if done correctly wont limit flex
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:27 PM
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http://www.quadratec.com/products/pr...8&mn=skyjacker. Ive used this anti wrap bar before, it was ok, it did limit flex a bit. I know the link is for a YJ one but they should offer an xj one
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:28 PM
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I appreiciate it man this is my first time realy tryin to set one up right i was wounderin how to do the axle wrap bars i need to search for a thread and get some ideas
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by john deer green
I appreiciate it man this is my first time realy tryin to set one up right i was wounderin how to do the axle wrap bars i need to search for a thread and get some ideas
Check the pirate4x4 Cherokee section. They have an entire thread dedicated to anti wrap bars
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:38 PM
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x2^^ google will bring up a few results as well. Most of them are from pirate. If you want a good picture just use Google images
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Trev1006
On p 1 ktmracer419 said, if flex is you main reason for doing this, your priorities are off.......... I think the MAIN reason for 3 link is flex!

more important reasons for it are to keep a good control arm angle for a smoother operating suspension, to keep a better ride quality, and to keep the front end planted to the ground as much as possible.

you can get a ton of flex out of shortarms if you build it for it.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 03:03 PM
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You will never get the same flex out of a short arm, it will bind and break something.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 03:09 PM
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If so I would be keepin my short arms. I guess if you built a custom short arm like a long arm it may flex better. But still not as good. The way my lift acts now the pinion is infinitely changing angle throughout the articulation if the front axle. Causing binding and broken joints. All large lift short arms I have seen do this.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 03:13 PM
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Have you ever tried to build a short arm that had all four arms the same length? It may elevate the pinion problem. Never done that.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 03:36 PM
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you can make shortarms flex more than a practical amount. yes longarms can be made to flex more, but theres a point where flex hinders offroad capability
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 04:49 PM
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What is The ideal angle for arms on a 3 link?
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 05:12 PM
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Ive heard all different angles from people. For my build I tried to use a calc. But what it said to do would have never fit under my jeep. So I drew it up in auto cad. According to that I figured if I make the links all the same length and close to parallel, while keeping them as parallel to the ground as I can, this should keep the same pinion angle throughout the axles range of motion. Thus I am hoping gives max flex with no binding. I have a locker to put up front so i would like to be able to keep both tires planted as much as possibe. Im not sure about the rear end though. Maybe ktmracer may know, he seems knowledgable about rear links.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 05:14 PM
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N20 has had some good input, maybe one of those guys may actually know the mathmatic correct angle.
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