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Old May 27, 2011 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by squigles
Why a Lincoln? The HH140 comes with a spool of flux self shielded, is gas ready and runs on household 110 which is important to me. If I had access to 220 readily available I would be asking a different question.
The lincoln 180 and 175 do run on house hold 110 but what ever get a piece of **** welder they will do up to 3/8 in steel but go withh ur HH and b replacing it soon to

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Old May 27, 2011 | 09:09 AM
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Lolz, excellent post, did you know Hobart is a Miller made product? My question was why you prefer Lincoln over Miller/Hobart? Anyways, where do you see that the 180 runs on 110? Are you talking about an older model? The only 180 amp welders I have seen that can run on 110 are Hobart and Millers portable batt powered models, in fact they advertise them as the first and only welders that can run that amperage on 110. Otherwise they also make the MVPs which can switch between the two, which I am starting to look hard at, I might save my pennies, use the 3200hd for now until I can drop the cash for such an expenditure. Then if I ever have access to 220 I can weld with the big boys.

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Old May 27, 2011 | 12:43 PM
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wow guy here this is what i was talking about

http://www.lincolnelectric.com/en-us...roduct=K2688-1


good luck with your decision

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Old May 27, 2011 | 12:48 PM
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and yes i do have one of the older Lincolns that runs 180 amp off a 110v plug i should have been a little more specific
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Old May 27, 2011 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ericfx1984
I know the 3200HD can do it... you just have to run it at full power and high wire speed, while also moving really slow...

also you might want to consider flux core if your welder is a little underpowered for the job... I don't know why, but it seems to work well on plate

you might also consider preheating your projects
Agree, but my .02 when maxing a welder out i like to run the wire speed as slow as possible without it popping, so you can move slower therefore getting deeper penetration. different strokes fer different folks!
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Old May 27, 2011 | 01:21 PM
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Lolz why lincoln and not a hobart, you said hobarts are ****, any reason to your rhyme?

I thought you ran a higher wire speed for thicker metals to deposit more material not necessarily move faster, maybe I am way off base here.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 03:38 PM
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I tend to crank the heat up and increase the wire speed, if you drop the speed too low it might burn up inside the gun...
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Old May 27, 2011 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by squigles
Lolz, excellent post, did you know Hobart is a Miller made product? My question was why you prefer Lincoln over Miller/Hobart? Anyways, where do you see that the 180 runs on 110? Are you talking about an older model? The only 180 amp welders I have seen that can run on 110 are Hobart and Millers portable batt powered models, in fact they advertise them as the first and only welders that can run that amperage on 110. Otherwise they also make the MVPs which can switch between the two, which I am starting to look hard at, I might save my pennies, use the 3200hd for now until I can drop the cash for such an expenditure. Then if I ever have access to 220 I can weld with the big boys.
Correct, Miller owns Hobart now, my Hobart's trigger says miller on it...lol
There's nothing wrong with buying red, white, or blue.
I would stay away from HF tho
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Old May 27, 2011 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by fallenknight308
I would stay away from HF tho

Why? I am sorry but unless you have personally used the product you do not really know...

I will take a 220v HF MIG welder for $200 any day before I will take a Lincoln 110v MIG for $600+

their 220v mig welders are rebadged Clarke Welders....

their TIG welders are rebadged lincolns...

I had a Lincoln 3200HD... HATED it...

I now have a (Harbor Freight) Chicago Electric MIG 151 ($180 on sale, normally $300)

-upgraded ground clamp($9)
-upgraded cooling fan ($15) really helps with duty cycle
- 1 year extended NO questions asked warranty ($25) they will replace it right there on the spot, and you can add another year warranty forever!

-I am planning to add a miller capacitor which will cost about $15-$25 and will make the weld puddle heat up faster




also just for the a little info... 'high amp' 110v welders need a really decent plug to weld worth a crap... hook them up to a cheap outlet and they fall flat on their face at higher output settings

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Old May 27, 2011 | 09:42 PM
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I got my frame stiffeners today, I am so excited! My mask, jacket and gloves should arrive tomorrow, been stopping at an autobody shop everyday on my way from work to pick up scrap chunks to burn... I mean weld together. I think I am going to save my pretty pennies up and try and get a Millermatic 211, it is only a few bucks more than the Hobart 210. Both run on 110 and 220! It will cost a lot more now (almost twice as much as the hh140) but will be pretty future proof.

Any thoughts on these?
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Old May 27, 2011 | 11:10 PM
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you will be very happy with that miller I think
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Old May 27, 2011 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ericfx1984
Why? I am sorry but unless you have personally used the product you do not really know...

I will take a 220v HF MIG welder for $200 any day before I will take a Lincoln 110v MIG for $600+

their 220v mig welders are rebadged Clarke Welders....

their TIG welders are rebadged lincolns...

I had a Lincoln 3200HD... HATED it...

I now have a (Harbor Freight) Chicago Electric MIG 151 ($180 on sale, normally $300)

-upgraded ground clamp($9)
-upgraded cooling fan ($15) really helps with duty cycle
- 1 year extended NO questions asked warranty ($25) they will replace it right there on the spot, and you can add another year warranty forever!

-I am planning to add a miller capacitor which will cost about $15-$25 and will make the weld puddle heat up faster




also just for the a little info... 'high amp' 110v welders need a really decent plug to weld worth a crap... hook them up to a cheap outlet and they fall flat on their face at higher output settings
Well glad to hear that's working out for you.
No I have never used a HF welder, the fact that I thought everything they carry was made in china dissuaded me. Guess I stand corrected.
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Old May 28, 2011 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by fallenknight308
Well glad to hear that's working out for you.
No I have never used a HF welder, the fact that I thought everything they carry was made in china dissuaded me. Guess I stand corrected.
thats the interesting thing... they don't actually make anything... they just rebadge things for the most part... some of it is crap, some of it is amazing for what you get

when thy first started carrying the MIG 151 they said made in Italy (which is where Clarke was made)

if you really think about what goes into a basic welder they are not very complicated...

but either way I would much rather have a nice Miller setup
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