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Old Jun 12, 2023 | 09:45 AM
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I just called the china warehouse your Mopar tstat is in stock n ready to ship
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Old Jun 12, 2023 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by EvanM;[url=tel:3699218
3699218[/url]]I just called the china warehouse your Mopar tstat is in stock n ready to ship

Made in Israel.
Wrong warehouse.
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Old Jun 13, 2023 | 08:21 AM
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With the system is cold, remove the overflow line from the filler neck. Squeeze the upper radiator hose. Does air/coolant spurt out of the overflow barb? You can be pretty aggressive with the squeezing.
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Old Jun 13, 2023 | 08:44 AM
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I would def say replace your fan clutch if you havent done that. Changed a lot of thinngs to keep my jeep cool when i first got it and it was overheating. That made the biggest difference for me
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Old Jun 13, 2023 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 00t444e
You would need at least 3 e fans and they still wouldn't flow as much air as the mechanical fan, and with the engine being turboed it will produce even more heat.
Clearly thinking has changed in the last 10 years, nobody mentioned flow then, it was all about mech fans robbing power & modern cars all having e-fans. I removed the mech fan from my 1st XJ (as I had with my previous 4.0 Jaguars) but never got round to fitting a 2nd e-fan & never had any issues. Of course the hardest work that ever did was cruising around 90 for as much of 220 mile journey twice a week for a year, as conditions allowed. I was going to do the same with my current one, so didn't replace the shroud after doing the HG but never got any further. Despite what I've read since, apart from perhaps the e-fan cutting in more often than it might otherwise, it's not a problem. Seems to me that temperature issues are more to do with operating conditions than anything.
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Old Jun 13, 2023 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rollneato
I would def say replace your fan clutch if you havent done that. Changed a lot of thinngs to keep my jeep cool when i first got it and it was overheating. That made the biggest difference for me
Except, as OP has already said, that isn't an option.
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Old Jun 13, 2023 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
There is indeed a Mopar stat!!

It functions like no other knock off or generic stat.
Happy to defer to your greater knowledge of such things but on this we'll have to agree to differ.

Israel's hardly an industrial powerhouse, so where is the Mopar facility there - & what else do they make?

Of course it's all academic, so far as I'm concerned, because here autoparts are a very different ballgame, in which the manufacturers and main dealers don't figure, at least once a vehicle's out of warranty.

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Old Jun 13, 2023 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by UKXJ
Clearly thinking has changed in the last 10 years, nobody mentioned flow then, it was all about mech fans robbing power & modern cars all having e-fans. I removed the mech fan from my 1st XJ (as I had with my previous 4.0 Jaguars) but never got round to fitting a 2nd e-fan & never had any issues. Of course the hardest work that ever did was cruising around 90 for as much of 220 mile journey twice a week for a year, as conditions allowed. I was going to do the same with my current one, so didn't replace the shroud after doing the HG but never got any further. Despite what I've read since, apart from perhaps the e-fan cutting in more often than it might otherwise, it's not a problem. Seems to me that temperature issues are more to do with operating conditions than anything.
People seem to think that the engery used to drive an E fan comes out of nowhere, adding additional fan motors puts more strain on your alternator which takes more power to turn, then there is the fact that you are converting mechanical energy to electrical energy then back to mechanical energy and efficiency is lost every time energy is converted from one form to another, with the fan clutch you are just using straight mechanical energy from the engine to turn the fan. Overall the e fan setup might use slightly less energy to operate compared to the mechanical fan, but comes at the cost of lower CFM. If you had an E fan setup that pulled as many CFM as the clutch fan not only would it not fit behind the radiator, it would actually take more power to turn than the clutch fan.
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Old Jun 14, 2023 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 00t444e
People seem to think that the engery used to drive an E fan comes out of nowhere, adding additional fan motors puts more strain on your alternator which takes more power to turn, then there is the fact that you are converting mechanical energy to electrical energy then back to mechanical energy and efficiency is lost every time energy is converted from one form to another, with the fan clutch you are just using straight mechanical energy from the engine to turn the fan. Overall the e fan setup might use slightly less energy to operate compared to the mechanical fan, but comes at the cost of lower CFM. If you had an E fan setup that pulled as many CFM as the clutch fan not only would it not fit behind the radiator, it would actually take more power to turn than the clutch fan.
Like I said, thinking has changed in the last 10 years & it's probably true that e-fans' benefits are over non-clutch fans. I remember the 1st e-fan I fitted was because in stock form the engine was over-cooled & in normal use the e-fan very rarely cut in. The engine getting up to temp quicker & being kept at its optimum operating temp made for an impressive improvement in fuel consumption.

All I know is that my 1st XJ didn't need its mech fan & the stock e-fan was perfectly adequate but, of course, that was almost all to do with how & where it was used. However, I am now undecided about my current driver, sans mech fan shroud, as it sees much fewer highway miles & has a 2(soon to be 3)" lift & 32" MT's which are occasionally put to the test. Very different operating conditions, so whether it loses its mech fan foe a 2nd e-fan (as originally intended) or regains its shroud is a little uncertain at the moment.
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Old Jun 14, 2023 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by UKXJ
Happy to defer to your greater knowledge of such things but on this we'll have to agree to differ.

Israel's hardly an industrial powerhouse, so where is the Mopar facility there - & what else do they make?

Of course it's all academic, so far as I'm concerned, because here autoparts are a very different ballgame, in which the manufacturers and main dealers don't figure, at least once a vehicle's out of warranty.
You would understand if you had experienced the things I did with Stant Superstats before going Mopar
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Old Jun 15, 2023 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
You would understand if you had experienced the things I did with Stant Superstats before going Mopar
That's a lesson learnt, because I'd always fondly believed that Stant were a quality product (although "Superstat" puts me off) but actually what I'd understand is hard evidence that Mopar actually make thermostats or, indeed, any ancillary parts.

I did a bit of shopping round after I logged off yesterday which proved quite interesting. I can get a supposedly OEM one, for an outrageous, price from an outfit that turns out be a Chevy dealer in Alabama. For a 10th of that I have a choice of just about every reputable replacement parts brand in Europe. The so called Jeep 'stat is common to a whole raft of US, UK & Far East vehicles. I found one, in a Mopar pack, clearly marked Made in Israel, at a surprisingly reasonable price & even an NOS one, in a Mopar box bearing the legend "Made in the USA" for, if I remember correctly, a little less. I still remain unconvinced that it isn't just the packaging that's Mopar.

But, as I said, all academic because i have 2 spares, the one out of my parts '96 & the one from my '97 which was replaced for no other reason than we had the housing off at the time, neither of which I have any reason to believe aren't original.
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Old Jun 16, 2023 | 12:07 AM
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I to did some research on mopar t stats. That stant name popped up and a motorad name.
not sure what i decided after my quick research.

Just make sure your **** works wether it's stamped mopar motard or motorad.
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Old Jun 16, 2023 | 08:03 AM
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Motorad makes OEM stats and some aftermarket stats.

They are built to different specs.

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Old Jun 16, 2023 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by EvanM
I to did some research on mopar t stats. That stant name popped up and a motorad name.
not sure what i decided after my quick research.

That sound familiar, didn't I also read somewhere that Motorad took over Stant?

Just make sure your **** works wether it's stamped mopar motard or motorad.
Now that's sound advice, to which I can relate - but whoever checked their 'stat, unless they suspected it?


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Old Jun 16, 2023 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Motorad makes OEM stats and some aftermarket stats.

They are built to different specs.
Interesting - & entirely believable, but I'm not sure what the specs for a 'stat are, apart from the temp.range, unless this refers to the materials &/or construction so their quality differs.
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